ACR RETURN LAND PROB CREATES FLT OVER 8 IN 24. COMPANY REGS DO NOT ALLOW.

1994-03 · NASA ASRS report 265697

Date: 1994-03

Anomalies: other-unspecified

Synopsis

ACR RETURN LAND PROB CREATES FLT OVER 8 IN 24. COMPANY REGS DO NOT ALLOW.

Narrative

ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS; I HAVE TALKED WITH MY COMPANY ABOUT MAX FLYING TIME DURING A 24 HR AND 7 DAY PERIOD. THE REPLY I GET FROM THE COMPANY AND OUR POI IS AS FOLLOWS: IF YOU START A DAY THAT IS SCHEDULED UNDER THE MAX TIME ALLOWED; THEN YOU CAN EXCEED THE MAX TIME DURING THE COURSE OF THE DAY AND BE LEGAL. BUT IN MY CASE; I HAD AN UNSCHEDULED LNDG DURING THE DAY. I HAD TO RETURN TO MY DEP POINT BECAUSE OF A MALFUNCTION ON THE AIRPLANE. BY DOING SO; THIS CHANGES THE RULE. BECAUSE OF THE UNSCHEDULED LNDG; EVERYTHING AFTER THAT POINT BECOMES RESCHEDULED. NOW THE RULE APPLIES FROM THAT POINT ON. I WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR 7.5 HRS OF FLYING ON THE DAY IN QUESTION. BECAUSE OF THE UNSCHEDULED RETURN AND LNDG; IT PUT ME OVER 8 HRS OF SCHEDULED FLYING. I ACTUALLY FLEW 9.1 HRS THAT DAY. ON ONE HAND; THE FAA ALLOWS YOU TO READILY EXCEED THE MAX TIME RULE WHILE ON THE OTHER HAND; YOU ARE IN VIOLATION. THERE IS A CONFUSION HERE. THE RULE SHOULD STAND FAST. ANY EXCEPTIONS SHOULD BE APPLIED AT THE END OF THE DAY; NOT AT THE BEGINNING OR DURING. BECAUSE OF THIS CONFUSION; I HAVE INADVERTENTLY EXCEEDED THE MAX TIME IN A 24 HR PERIOD BY 1.6 HRS. THE FAA NEEDS TO REEXAMINE THE DUTY REGS AND PUT OUT A MORE SIMPLE EXPLANATION. THE RULE IN REF IS FAR 121.471. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR SENT IN RPT JUST AS PROTECTION AS NO FAA INVOLVEMENT. HE WENT TO SPEAK WITH HIS CHIEF PLT AND BY CHANCE ANOTHER PLT WAS PRESENT WHO HAD HAD A RUN IN WITH FAA. IT SEEMS THAT COMPANY POLICY DIFFERS FROM FAA REGS AND ONCE THE FLT RETURNED TO LAND A 'NEW' SCHEDULE WAS IN PROGRESS. HE VIOLATED NO FAR. HIS CONCERN WHEN HE ENDED FLT AND REALIZED THE ADDED TIME WAS FOR SCHEDULING PROPER REST TIME WITHOUT WHICH HE WOULD HAVE VIOLATED FARS. RPTR SAID CREW WAS LULLED INTO PLAYING CATCH UP ALL DAY WITH DELAYS AND DID NOT REALIZE THEY WERE SO BEYOND FLT TIME. CHIEF PLT RECOMMENDED THE RPT BE SENT TO ASRS.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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