AN ACR MLG PLTED BY AN AMERICAN PLT VIOLATED THE SPD RESTR BELOW 10000 FT AT TORONTO.

1994-03 · NASA ASRS report 268508

Date: 1994-03 · Aircraft: Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer · Phase: climb

Anomalies: deviation-speed-all-types|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy

Synopsis

AN ACR MLG PLTED BY AN AMERICAN PLT VIOLATED THE SPD RESTR BELOW 10000 FT AT TORONTO.

Narrative

BEFORE PUSHBACK; THE CAPT BRIEFED ME ON THE DEP AND SPECIAL CLB PROCS IN CANADA. (I.E.; BEING CLRED ABOVE 10000 FT YOU CAN ACCELERATE TO NORMAL CLB SPD.) WE WERE GIVEN THE TORONTO 7 FOR OUR CLRNC. DURING CLBOUT WE WERE GIVEN A HDG; AND AN ALT CLRNC ABOVE 10000 FT. WE STARTED TO ACCELERATE ABOVE 250 KTS TO OUR NORMAL CLB SPD (310 KTS). I LOOKED DOWN AGAIN AT THE TORONTO 7 SID AGAIN AND SAW IT ALSO HAD A 250 KT RESTR. THE CAPT INCREASED THE CLB RATE TO REDUCE THE SPD. AT THIS PINT WE WERE PASSING THROUGH 10000 FT ABOUT 280 KTS; PLUS OR MINUS. WE RESUMED ACCELERATION WITHOUT HEARING ANY REMARKS FROM YYZ DEP. WE WERE THEN HANDED OFF TO ZOB. WE WERE BOTH SURPRISED TO SEE THAT ON OUR 10-T PAGE NO MENTION OF THE TORONTO 7 SPD RESTR -- ONLY THE TORONTO 6. ON THE TORONTO 6 SID; THE 250 KT RESTR IS VERY OBSCURED. I FEEL THAT THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF THE CAPT AND I WERE LESS COMPLACENT. WE SAW WHAT WE WANTED TO SEE N OUR 10-T PAGE (THAT IS; ACCELERATING TO CLB SPD BELOW 10000 FT) WITHOUT EXAMINING ANY FURTHER TO SEE WHAT THE RESTRS MIGHT APPLY ON THE SID. I ALSO FEEL THAT THE CLB SPD INFO IS CONFLICTORY. ONE PLACE WE SEE THAT WE CAN CLB AT NORMAL CLB SPD; BUT ANOTHER PLACE SAYS WE CAN'T. ALSO THAT THERE WAS NO MENTION OF THE TORONTO 7 ON THE 10-T PAGE. THIS IS WHAT GAVE US THE IMPRESSION WE COULD CLB FAST. AFTER ACCEPTING THAT; WE DIDN'T SEARCH ANYMORE FOR OTHER RESTRS. THERE SHOULDN'T BE DIFFERENT INFO IN DIFFERENT PLACES. ALL RULES CONCERNING THE SID SHOULD BE ON THE SID; AND NOT IN 2 PLACES.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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