1994-10 · NASA ASRS report 286594
STUDENT PLT FAILS TO RPT AT THE POS INSTRUCTED BY THE TWR.
I WAS FLYING WITH A STUDENT ON A XCOUNTRY FLT TO OXC WHEN I DECIDED TO SIMULATE A DIVERSION TO BRIDGEPORT ARPT. I INSTRUCTED THE STUDENT TO CHANGE THE DEST TO BRIDGEPORT AND TO ASK FOR A TOUCH AND GO AT THE ARPT. THE STUDENT OVERFLEW THE ARPT AT 3000 FT; RECEIVED THE ATIS AND CALLED THE TWR WHEN HE WAS APPROX 7 MI TO THE NW OF THE ARPT; ON A HDG OF ABOUT 310 DEGS. THE TWR TOLD THE STUDENT TO RPT A 2 MI L BASE FOR RWY 11. THE STUDENT RESPONDED WITH 'RPT A 2 MI L DOWNWIND FOR RWY 11.' I REALIZED THAT THE STUDENT HAD MADE AN ERROR IN THE READBACK; BUT THE CTLR DID NOT CORRECT HIM; SO I THOUGHT I COULD MAKE THE APPROPRIATE ACTIONS (RPT 2 MI BASE) WHEN WE GOT CLOSER TO THE ARPT. BECAUSE OF OUR POS; HOWEVER; WHEN THE STUDENT TURNED TO THE L TOWARDS THE ARPT; WE WOUND UP ON A LONG FINAL FOR RWY 11. AS WE CONTINUED INBOUND ABOUT 2 MI OUT THE STUDENT RPTED A 2 MI FINAL. THE CTLR RESPONDED WITH 'FIRST I TELL YOU RPT A 2 MI BASE; THEN YOU SAY DOWNWIND; AND YOU SHOW UP ON FINAL!' REALIZING THE MISTAKE; I RESPONDED WITH AN APOLOGY ONLY TO BE TOLD BY THE CTLR; 'YOU BETTER REVIEW PROCS AND LEARN HOW TO BE A BETTER INSTRUCTOR!' NEEDLESS TO SAY; WITH SUCH AN UNPROFESSIONAL COMMENT; I WAS NOT TOO HAPPY AND THE CTLR ASKED ME FOR MY HOME BASE HINTING THAT I WOULD BE RPTED. I THINK THIS INCIDENT COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF WE HAD GIVEN THE CTLR MORE PERTINENT LOCATION INFO ON THE INITIAL CALL UP TO THE TWR; IE; 'SETUP FOR A LONG FINAL FOR RWY 11.' ALSO; I SHOULD HAVE NOT LET MY ATTN LAPSE WHEN WE SHOWED UP ON FINAL. ALSO I SHOULD HAVE CORRECTED THE STUDENT TO INITIATE A BASE SETUP OR CHANGE THE RPTING POINT TO FINAL THROUGH COORD WITH ATC. CONTRIBUTING FACTOR ALSO IS THE CTLR'S FAILURE TO CORRECT THE STUDENT WHEN THE STUDENT READBACK HIS CLRNC.
Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.
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