CPR X HAD CONFLICT WITH VFR GLIDER. SEE AND AVOID CONCEPT.

1994-11 · NASA ASRS report 288273

Date: 1994-11 · Aircraft: Commercial Fixed Wing

Anomalies: conflict-airborne-conflict

Synopsis

CPR X HAD CONFLICT WITH VFR GLIDER. SEE AND AVOID CONCEPT.

Narrative

PDK CLRNC DELIVERY CLRED X TO MCN; DIRECT GNV; DIRECT TPA. WE DEPARTED THE PDK ARPT TO THE N; RWY HDG TO 3000 FT. WE CONTACTED DEP; CONTINUED THE CLB TO 5000 FT AND A R TURN TO A HDG OF 240 DEGS. I ASKED FOR HIGHER ALT; BUT THE CTLR INFORMED ME IT WOULD BE A LEAST 25 MI BEFORE I WOULD RECEIVE A CLRNC. I REQUESTED OPTIONS BE MADE AVAILABLE TO GET A HIGHER ALT SOONER. I WAS INFORMED AN E HDG WOULD ACHIEVE THIS. I TURNED R TO A HDG OF 090 DEGS; CLBING AND MAINTAINING 5000 FT. WE WERE IN LEVEL FLT JUST TO THE SW OF THE PDK ARPT ABOUT A MI OR SO. OUR FLYING TIME FROM WHEELS UP; 8 MINS. AGAIN WE REQUESTED HIGHER ALT. THE CTLR WAS UNABLE TO GIVE US A HIGHER ALT DUE TO INBOUND COMMERCIAL JET TFC. A COUPLE MINS PAST AND THE CTLR CALLED TFC AT 1 O'CLOCK; APPROX 3 MI; 6500 FT; UNCONFIRMED. TFC WAS SIGHTED (SINGLE ENG) IN THE APPROX AREA BUT LOWER THAN THE RPTED 6500 FT. JET TFC WAS ALSO SEEN GOING OVERHEAD AT 8000 FT. BEFORE WE REACHED THE SIGHTED TFC; A GLIDER BLURRED BY OUR R SIDE AND SLIGHTLY ABOVE US. WE NEVER SAW THE GLIDER UNTIL IT WAS PASSING BY OUR R WING. COMMENTS CAME FORWARD FROM OUR PAX; 'DID YOU SEE THE GLIDER;' ALONG WITH A COUPLE OF OOHS AND AAHS AS WE PASSED THE PLANE. IN MY OPINION; THE CTLR'S ATTITUDE DURING HIS HANDLING OF US WAS LESS THAN PROFESSIONAL. COMMENTS FROM THE CTLR WHEN WE ASKED FOR A HIGHER ALT THE FIRST TIME WERE; 'I DON'T WRITE THE PROCS I JUST WORK HERE;' AFTER THE NEAR MISS I INFORMED THE CTLR WHAT JUST HAPPENED AND I WAS GOING TO MAKE A RPT. THE CTLR RESPONDED; 'DO WHAT YOU THINK YOU HAVE TO DO.' HIS HOSTILE ATTITUDE CONTINUED UNTIL I CLRED CLASS B AIRSPACE AND CANCELED MY IFR FLT PLAN. THIS BEHAVIOR COMPROMISES SAFETY FOR ALL PARTIES INVOLVED. IT IS AMAZING THE PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT ATC GIVES TO THE COMMERCIAL JET TFC. UNTIL RECENTLY; I WAS FLYING JETS AND DID NOT REALIZE THE DISCRIMINATION THAT OCCURS WITH TURBOPROPS IN THE ATC SYS. TURBOPROPS ARE HIGH PERFORMANCE AIRPLANES AND SHOULD BE TREATED ACCORDINGLY. MUCH OF THIS COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF WE WERE ALLOWED TO CLB. PURPOSEFULLY KEEPING US OUT OF THE CLASS B AIRSPACE SO NOT TO PROVIDE US WITH POS SEPARATION IS RECKLESS. I AM NOT INTERESTED IN BECOMING A STATISTIC BEFORE SOMETHING IS DONE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 287559: PLT WAS ANGRY BECAUSE HE COULD NOT GET ON IFR CLB BECAUSE OF TFC. CTLR ISSUED TFC AT 1 O'CLOCK 2 MI UNKNOWN SQUAWKING VFR; ALT INDICATES 6600 FT. PLT RPTED TFC IN SIGHT; SAID TFC WAS AT 5500 OR 5000. PLT THEN CALLED ATC AFTER LNDG TO FILE A NEAR MID-AIR COLLISION. PLT COMPLAINED ABOUT ATC THE ENTIRE TIME HE WAS ON ATL RADIOS. GUESS HE FEELS THIS WILL GET HIM RESULTS.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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