NON RADAR APCH CTL ACR X HAD NMAC LTSS FROM ACR Y ON APCH. SYS ERROR.

1995-02 · NASA ASRS report 296482

Date: 1995-02 · Aircraft: Commercial Fixed Wing

Anomalies: atc-issue-all-types|conflict-nmac|deviation-track-heading-all-types|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy

Synopsis

NON RADAR APCH CTL ACR X HAD NMAC LTSS FROM ACR Y ON APCH. SYS ERROR.

Narrative

ACR X TOOK OFF FROM CUIDAD; OR; ENRTE TO HERMOSILLO; MEXICO. AN ATR HAD TAKEN OFF AHEAD OF US ALSO INBOUND TO HERMOSILLO (HMO). THE ATR WAS AT ALL TIMES AT LEAST 13 MI AHEAD OF US; ACCORDING TO POS RPTS (NON RADAR ENVIRONMENT). UPON ARR INTO HMO; WX WAS IMC; APCH CLRED X AND THE ATR FOR THE SAME ARR AND APCH INTO HERMOSILLO. X STARTED THE PUBLISHED ARR AND APCH. WE FOLLOWED OUR COMPANY PROCS AND INST PROCS; WE EXECUTED THE ARR AND APCH AND LNDG AT HERMOSILLO WITHOUT INCIDENT. WHEN X WAS CLRING THE RWY; WE NOTICED AN ATR GO OVERHEAD ON THE MISSED. WE HAD NEVER SEEN THE ATR THROUGHOUT THE ARR OR APCH. IN FACT; WE WEREN'T EVEN CERTAIN THAT THE ATR ON THE MISS WAS THE SAME ATR WE WERE FOLLOWING. WHILE WE WERE ON THE RAMP; I MONITORED TWR FREQ; I HEARD THE ATR PLT ASK THE TWR WHAT HAD HAPPENED. HE SAID HE HAD TO USE EVASIVE ACTION TO AVOID HITTING ACFT ON FINAL APCH. IN SPANISH; I HEARD THE TWR ASK THE ATR PLT TO COME UP TO THE TWR AND THAT THEY WOULD EXPLAIN WHAT HAD HAPPENED. I REALIZED IT WAS THE SAME ATR WE WERE FOLLOWING; CONFUSED AS TO WHAT HAD HAPPENED AND HOW AND WHEN WE HAD PASSED THE ATR ON THE APCH. I PROCEEDED TO GO TO THE TWR. WHEN BOTH PLTS ARRIVED AT THE TWR; APCH CTL TOLD US THAT HE SHOULDN'T HAVE CLRED US BOTH FOR THE SAME ARR; BUT THAT HE THOUGHT; BASED ON OUR POS RPTS; THAT WE HAD ADEQUATE SEPARATION. HE ALSO SAID THAT HE DIDN'T THINK X HAD EXECUTED THE ARR AS PUBLISHED; THE ATR PLT AGREED THAT X HADN'T EXECUTED THE PUBLISHED ARR. I (CAPT OF X) TOLD THEM THAT WE HAD EXECUTED THE PUBLISHED ARR AND APCH AND HADN'T DEVIATED FROM ANY CLRNC. WE DISCUSSED SEVERAL POSSIBLE FACTORS THAT COULD HAVE CAUSED THIS INCIDENT; INCLUDING DIDN'T SLOW DOWN ENOUGH ON THE ARR AND ATR SLOWED DOWN TOO MUCH. ULTIMATELY; WE ALL AGREED THAT APCH CTL SHOULD NOT CLR 2 ACFT FOR THE SAME ARR OR APCH IN A NON RADAR ENVIRONMENT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 296481: ATR TOOK OFF BEFORE US; ALSO HEADED TO HMO; MEXICO. HMO APCH TOLD US THAT THE ATR WAS 13 DME AHEAD OF US. ALL COM WITH THE ATR AND ALL OTHER ACFT WERE IN SPANISH. WE WERE CLRED FOR THE MIURA 1 ARR TO RWY 23 HMO. THE MIURA DME CONSISTS OF A 10 DME ARC. WE FOLLOWED ALL PUBLISHED INST PROCS FOR THE ARR AND APCH BUT SOMETIME WHILE ON THE APCH AND IMC WE PASSED THE ATR. I FEEL THE #1 PROB IS THE LANGUAGE BARRIER. NOT KNOWING WHAT THE OTHER ACFT ARE SAYING AND HAVING TO REPEAT EVERYTHING TIES UP THE RADIOS. #2 PROB IS NOT KNOWING AIRSPD OF OTHER ACFT ON SAME ARR. ANOTHER PROB HAVING 2 ACFT ON THE SAME ARR. THE BIGGEST PROB AND MOST DANGEROUS PROB IN MEXICO FOR EVERYONE IS NOT HAVING RADAR COVERAGE BELOW FL200.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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