1995-06 · NASA ASRS report 307441
TAXI CLRNC CONFUSION.
THE CAPT FLEW AN ILS APCH TO RWY 30 AT LGB. THERE WAS A SMALL ACFT ON APCH BEHIND US; AND ANOTHER SMALL ACFT ON APCH TO RWY 25R. RWY 30 HAS A DISPLACED THRESHOLD WITH 8010 FT AVAILABLE BEYOND THE THRESHOLD. AFTER TOUCHDOWN THE TWR (LCL CTLR) INSTRUCTED US TO 'TURN L AT KILO; CONTACT GND.' SHE THEN ADDED WHAT SOUNDED LIKE 'KILO IS JUST SOUTH OF THE WINDSOCK.' THE COPLT HAD THE ARPT CHART OUT; AND SAW THE TXWY SIGN FOR KILO JUST S OF THE WINDSOCK. THE ARROW ON THE KILO SIGN APPEARED TO POINT TO THE IMMEDIATE L. THE CAPT TURNED L JUST PRIOR TO THE WINDSOCK. THE COPLT CALLED GND CTLR AND RPTED CLR OF THE RWY AT KILO. GND CTL TOLD US WE HAD TURNED L ONTO RWY 16R WHICH IS NOT STRESSED FOR LARGE ACFT. HE TOLD US TO TURN L ON DELTA. THE CREW HAD NOT SEEN A RWY SIGN FOR RWY 16R AND IT WAS AN INACTIVE RWY. ON THE ARPT CHART THERE IS NO MARKING FOR KILO ON THE W SIDE OF RWY 30; AND THE PLACEMENT OF THE KILO TXWY SIGN WAS CONFUSING. ALSO THERE IS NO NOTATION ON 10-9 OR 10-10 CHARTS ABOUT RWY 16R BEING WT RESTR FOR TAXI. IT WOULD ALSO HAD BEEN CLRER WHERE KILO WAS IF CTLR HAD SAID 'SECOND L TURN.'
Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.
Loading the flight search…
Pick an aircraft model — Boeing 737, Airbus A320, A380, Boeing 787 Dreamliner and more — enter your origin airport, and FlightFinder shows every route that plane flies from there with live fares.
We support Boeing 737/747/757/767/777/787, the full Airbus A220/A319/A320/A321/A330/A340/A350/A380 family, Embraer E170/E175/E190/E195, Bombardier CRJ and Dash 8, and the ATR 42/72 turboprops.
Search and schedules are free. Pro ($4.99/month, $39/year, or $99 one-time lifetime) unlocks the enriched flight card — on-time stats, CO₂ per passenger, amenities, live gate & weather — plus My Trips with push alerts.
Live schedules come from Amadeus, AeroDataBox and Travelpayouts. Observed routes (which aircraft actually flew a given city pair) are crowdsourced from adsb.lol ADS-B data under the Open Database License.