1996-02 · NASA ASRS report 327786
THE FLCS OF A FK100 AND A SF340 BOTH MADE A GAR TO ASSURE AVOIDING ONE ANOTHER ON SHORT FINAL TO LAND ON INTERSECTING RWYS. TWR CTLR IN TRAINING DID NOT TAKE ACTION TO ELIMINATE THE CONFLICT WHEN QUERIED BY THE RPTR REGARDING CONFIRMATION OF LNDG CLRNC.
BOTH ACFT WERE ON VISUAL APCHS; US TO RWY 27R THE SF340 TO RWY 35 IN GOOD VMC. THE SF340 WAS INSTRUCTED TO 'FOLLOW THE DC9? ON FINAL.' THEY REPLIED THEY WOULD SLOW TO FOLLOW THE TFC. ON SHORT (2 MI) FINAL THE CLOSURE DIDN'T LOOK GOOD (CONSTANT BEARINGS!). WE QUERIED THE TWR ABOUT OUR LNDG CLRNC. WE WERE TOLD (WITH NO EMPHASIS) 'YES SIR; CLRED TO LAND.' THE SIT WAS DEVELOPING INTO AN EVENTUAL INCURSION AT THE INTXN OF RWYS 27R AND 35. TWR SAID NOTHING. IT WAS BECOMING OBVIOUS THAT THE SF340 WAS NOT GOING TO LAND BEHIND US. WE OPTED FOR A GAR AT 150 FT AGL BY PULLING UP AND BANKING R. THE ONLY THING SAID BY TWR WAS 'FLT X YOU ARE STILL CLRED TO LAND RWY 35!' AT THIS POINT WE SAW THE SF340 GOING AROUND; MAKING A CLBING L TURN AWAY FROM US. BOTH ACFT WENT AROUND AND LANDED WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. WHEN WE CALLED THE TWR SUPVR TO CLARIFY THE SIT WE WERE TOLD THAT TRAINING WAS IN PROGRESS AND THE TRAINEE WAS 'DOWNSTAIRS' BEING DEBRIEFED AND HE WAS SORRY FOR THE PROB!! MY SUGGESTION IS THAT WHEN TRAINING IS IN PROGRESS IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO NOTIFY THE PLTS TO KEEP US IN THE LOOP. ALTHOUGH WE ALWAYS SHOULD BE AT PEAK AWARENESS; IF WE HEAR ON ATIS OR ON INITIAL CALL 'TRAINING IN PROGRESS' IT WOULD MAKE US SIT UP AND TAKE NOTICE FOR 'UNUSUAL' ACTIVITY. SIMILAR TO HEARING 'STUDENT PLT' ON XCOUNTRY FLTS; IT HEIGHTENS THE AWARENESS OF THE CTLRS.
Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.
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