LGT CAPT WITH VERY LITTLE TIME IN ACFT ALLOWS ACFT TO SLOW TO STICK SHAKER SPD. HE ADMITS HIS SHORTCOMINGS STATING THAT HE SHOULD HAVE HAD THE FO FLY DUE TO ALL THE DISTRS PRESENT ON THIS PARTICULAR FLT. RPTR WAS POSSIBLY RECEIVING IOE TRAINING.

1997-01 · NASA ASRS report 358957

Date: 1997-01 · Aircraft: Commercial Fixed Wing

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy

Synopsis

LGT CAPT WITH VERY LITTLE TIME IN ACFT ALLOWS ACFT TO SLOW TO STICK SHAKER SPD. HE ADMITS HIS SHORTCOMINGS STATING THAT HE SHOULD HAVE HAD THE FO FLY DUE TO ALL THE DISTRS PRESENT ON THIS PARTICULAR FLT. RPTR WAS POSSIBLY RECEIVING IOE TRAINING.

Narrative

WE WERE GIVEN MINIMAL SPACING ON THE ACFT LNDG IN FRONT OF US. APPROX 4 MI AND CLOSING; WE WERE CONFIGURED TO GEAR DOWN; FLAPS 30 DEGS AT VGA AND HAD TO DO S-TURNS ON FINAL FOR ADDITIONAL SPACING. THE ACFT AHEAD DID NOT CLR THE RWY AND WE WERE SENT AROUND. WE CLBED TO 4000 FT AND TURNED TO 180 DEGS; THEN TURNED TO 090 DEGS WITH DEP CTL. SPD WAS 210 KIAS; FLAPS 2 DEGS; GEAR UP. AT THIS POINT SOME CONFUSION DEVELOPED OVER CLRNC. WE THOUGHT WE HEARD CLB TO 6000 FT; TURN L 360 DEGS. SEVERAL ACFT WERE STEPPING ON EACH OTHER'S RADIO CALLS. WE CONFIRMED OUR CLRNC; AND DEP SAID 'TELL YOU WHAT -- JUST STAY AT 4000 FT AND STAY ON 090 DEG HDG AND SLOW TO 160 KTS.' SINCE I HAD ALREADY STARTED TO CLB AND TURN; I REVERSED PITCH AND HDG TO DSND BACK TO 4000 FT; LEVEL OFF; ROLL OUT ON HDG. PWR WAS NOW AT IDLE. AT THIS POINT; I FAILED TO NOTE AIRSPD DECREASING. WE STARTED TO GET 'STICK SHAKER.' BOTH THE FO AND I SHOVED PWR UP AND HE ASKED; 'DO YOU WANT FLAPS 15 DEGS?' I SAID YES; THINKING I HAD ALREADY ASKED FOR FLAPS 15 DEGS. THE STICK SHAKER LASTED ABOUT 2-3 SECONDS; AIRSPD RECOVERED TO 180-190 KTS AND NO FURTHER PROBS WERE ENCOUNTERED. WE WERE VECTORED AROUND FOR ANOTHER ILS TO RWY 27R; WITH ANOTHER GAR AS TFC WAS NOT CLR OF RWY AGAIN. WE WENT AROUND TO THE N THIS TIME; DECLARED 'MINIMUM FUEL' AND LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: 1) CONFUSION ON OUR PART OVER CLRNC. 2) CONFUSION ON ATC PART AS TO WHAT TO DO WITH US. (RWY 27L WAS NOW CLOSED FOR BRAKING ACTION NIL.) 3) LACK OF EXPERIENCE ON MY PART. I SHOULD HAVE DELEGATED THE FO TO FLY THE ACFT WHILE MY ATTN WAS BEING DIVERTED BY FLYING DUTIES; WORRYING ABOUT FUEL; ALTERNATES; TIME TO DECISION FUEL; ETC. 4) LACK OF ADDITIONAL CREW MONITORING APCH; AIRSPDS; ETC; AND BACKING UP THE PF BY BRINGING DECREASE IN AIRSPD TO HIS (MY) ATTN; ETC.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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