AN ACR L1011 FLC FORGOT TO START DSCNT AND CROSSED CLAWZ ABOVE THEIR ASSIGNED ALT. THE ARTCC CTLR REMINDED THEM ABOUT THE XING AND ASKED THEM TO EXPEDITE DSCNT.

1997-06 · NASA ASRS report 372412

Date: 1997-06 · Aircraft: L-1011 Tri-Star All Series

Anomalies: deviation-altitude-crossing-restriction-not-met|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance

Synopsis

AN ACR L1011 FLC FORGOT TO START DSCNT AND CROSSED CLAWZ ABOVE THEIR ASSIGNED ALT. THE ARTCC CTLR REMINDED THEM ABOUT THE XING AND ASKED THEM TO EXPEDITE DSCNT.

Narrative

WHILE ON THE LEESE ARR TO MCO; A CLRNC WAS GIVEN TO CROSS CLAWZ; PLT'S DISCRETION; AT FL270. THE ALT WAS SET INTO THE ALT SELECT PANEL; BUT DSCNT WAS NOT INITIATED UNTIL CTLR SAID 'CALL SIGN; YOU WERE CLRED TO CROSS CLAWZ AT FL270; BEGIN DSCNT.' AT THAT POINT WE WERE OVER CLAWZ AND CTLR DID NOT INDICATE A CONFLICT; BUT ASKED US TO EXPEDITE DSCNT. THIS WAS THE CAPT'S FIRST FLT AFTER IOE. I HAVE BEEN ON THE L1011 FOR 2 YRS AND PRIOR TO THAT; A B727 COPLT FOR 5 YRS. THIS ACFT DOES NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROGRAM A DSCNT POINT INTO THE FMS AND IT TAKES CREW AWARENESS TO MAKE/MEET RESTRS. PROB AROSE: PLT'S DISCRETION DSCNT GIVEN. DISCOVERED BY: ATC AS WE WERE PASSING CLAWZ AT FL330; WHEN WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT FL270. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: PLT (CAPT IN EQUIP TYPE) BUT MOSTLY INATTN TO TASK AT HAND. WE WERE ALL INVOLVED IN A HEATED DISCUSSION ABOUT THE AGE 60 RULE -- WE FORGOT! CORRECTIVE ACTION: MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS AWARE OF FLT DUTIES FIRST; AND THAT SOMEONE IS PRIMARILY FLYING AND NOT INVOLVED IN OTHER ACTIVITIES. WE EXPEDITED DSCNT AND NO MENTION WAS MADE OF ANY CONFLICTS.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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