B727 CREW CLAIM OF NAVAID PROB WITH THE FWA VOR AND THE NEED FOR ATC TO VECTOR THEM TO 'ON COURSE.' QUOTES ARTCC RADAR CTLR AT ZAU OF SAYING THE 'FWA VOR WAS NOTORIOUSLY WEAK.' SECOND ZAU CTLR SEEMED SURPRISED AT THEIR THEN CORRECTED POS AND ISSUES DSCNT AND TURN TO OPPOSITE DIRECTION TFC; A TURN FOR RPTR'S ACFT.

1997-08 · NASA ASRS report 378481

Date: 1997-08 · Aircraft: B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model

Anomalies: conflict-airborne-conflict|deviation-track-heading-all-types|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|other-unspecified

Synopsis

B727 CREW CLAIM OF NAVAID PROB WITH THE FWA VOR AND THE NEED FOR ATC TO VECTOR THEM TO 'ON COURSE.' QUOTES ARTCC RADAR CTLR AT ZAU OF SAYING THE 'FWA VOR WAS NOTORIOUSLY WEAK.' SECOND ZAU CTLR SEEMED SURPRISED AT THEIR THEN CORRECTED POS AND ISSUES DSCNT AND TURN TO OPPOSITE DIRECTION TFC; A TURN FOR RPTR'S ACFT.

Narrative

WE WERE INBOUND ON J64 INTO FT WAYNE VOR (117.8) APPROX 62 NM E WHEN ATC CALLED AND VECTORED US 30 DEGS R. WE ASKED IF THIS WAS FOR TFC AND CTLR SAID NO; IT WAS TO GET US BACK ON AIRWAY. WE IMMEDIATELY CHKED OUR CDI'S AND WHEN WE SAW THEY WERE CTRED; WE CHKED TO MAKE SURE THE INBOUND COURSE OF 271 DEGS WAS CORRECT. IT WAS. WE ASKED ATC FOR CLARIFICATION WHEN HE HAD THE TIME. WHEN HE CALLED BACK WE TOLD HIM OUR INSTS SHOWED US ON CTRLINE OR WITHIN 1 DEG AND THAT AT 60 NM THAT SHOULD PUT US WITHIN 1 MI OF CTRLINE. HE SAID HE SHOWED US 8 NM S OF CTRLINE. HE WENT ON TO SAY THAT THE FT WAYNE VOR WAS NOTORIOUSLY WEAK. WE THANKED HIM AND HE SWITCHED US TO ANOTHER FREQ; AFTER CLRING US DIRECT TO FT WAYNE. THE NEW CTLR GAVE US AN IMMEDIATE VECTOR TO THE R AND GAVE AN ACR ACFT A VECTOR ALSO. HE THEN GAVE THE OTHER ACR JET A DSCNT 'FOR TFC.' OUR TCASII SHOWED THAT WE PASSED ABOUT 10 NM ABEAM. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THE FT WAYNE VOR BE CHKED AND CERTIFIED FOR ACCURACY AND REPAIRED AS NECESSARY. THIS WAS THE LAST LEG OF THE DAY AND WE HAD NO RPTS OF INST ERROR ON OUR ACFT. WE BELIEVE THE FT WAYNE VOR MAY BE WEAK OR INACCURATE. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 378474: IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THE CTLRS COMMUNICATED WITH EACH OTHER AT ALL; IT WAS LIKE WE SURPRISED THE SECOND CTLR. IT SOUNDS LIKE FWA SIGNAL IS WEAK ENOUGH THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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