1997-09 · NASA ASRS report 380129
FLC OF BE1900 IS CLRED TO A VOR THAT IS NOTAMED OTS. UPON QUESTIONING; ATC ASSIGNS AN INTXN WHICH REQUIRES A RADIAL OFF THAT SAME OTS VOR. FURTHER QUESTIONING CORRECTS THE CLRNC.
OPERATING AS COMMUTER ON THE GND IN WENATCHEE (EAT). I; AS FO; CALLED ZSE ON FREQ 126.10 FOR CLRNC TO WALLA WALLA (ALW). COMPANY DISPATCHER FILED FLT DIRECT TO MOSES LAKE VOR; THENCE VICTOR AIRWAY TO ALW. ON THIS DAY; MOSES LAKE VOR WAS NOTAMED OTS. AS THE FLT WAS HOLDING SHORT OF THE DEPARTING RWY; ARTCC CLRED US AS FILED. THIS REQUIRED US TO FLY DIRECTLY TO A VOR WHICH WAS OTS. I QUESTIONED THE CTLR REGARDING THIS INVALID CLRNC. HE SIMPLY CLRED US TO AN INTXN 17 DME OFF OF A RADIAL FROM EAT VOR. HAD I NOT QUESTIONED THE VALIDITY OF THE CLRNC; OURS AS WELL AS MANY OTHER FLTS MIGHT HAVE BEEN ERRONEOUSLY AND POSSIBLY TRAGICALLY CLRED. HAD THIS DAY BEEN A BAD WX DAY; AND DUE TO THE HIGH TERRAIN IN CLOSE PROX TO EAT ARPT; THESE CONTINUING OVERSIGHTS BY ZSE ARE GOING TO MAKE FRONT PAGE HEADLINES. I FLY IN AND OUT OF EAT TWICE A DAY WITH AN EVER INCREASING STRESS LEVEL NOT CONDUCIVE TO THE 'SAFE AIRLINE COCKPIT.' WITH NUMEROUS ACR OPS; GA ACFT; SAILPLANES AND FOREST SVC TANKER OPS; THERE IS VERY LITTLE ROOM FOR THE CONTINUING OVERSIGHTS; ERRORS AND CONFUSION WE AS FLCS EXPERIENCE. I FIRMLY RECOMMEND SPECIAL TRAINING BE REQUIRED FOR ARTCC; FLCS AND DISPATCHERS; AS WELL AS A SPECIAL DESIGNATION WITH SPECIAL PROCS FOR ALL WHO OPERATE IN EAT.
Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.
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