1997-12 · NASA ASRS report 389476
FLC OF B767-300ER RECEIVES PDC TO FLY THE OAK 5 DEP. DURING BRIEF THEY MISS THE NOTATION TO FLY THE SILENT DEP BTWN XA00 AND XJ00 LCL IN LIEU OF THE OAKLAND DEP. DURING INITIAL CLB CTLR QUERIES AND THEN ISSUES RADAR VECTORS.
ACARS PDC WAS OAK 5 OAK LIN J84 MVA TAF MAINTAIN FL230; CONTACT BAY DEP 134.5; SQUAWK XXXX; 250 KTS UNTIL ADVISED. IN SMALL PRINT DISCOVERED AFTER PROB AROSE; ON THE OAK 5 DEP BTWN THE HRS OF XA00-XJ00 LCL USE THE SILN 7 DEP. BAY DEP ASKED IF WE WERE DOING SILN 7; AND WE SAID NO; PDC GAVE US OAK 5. DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A PROB THOUGH BAY DEP GAVE US RADAR VECTORS TO LIN. THIS PROBABLY HAS OCCURRED BEFORE WITH OTHER ACFT. TO PREVENT THIS ASSIGN DEP THAT YOU WILL FLY NOT ASSIGN ONE; WHEN REALLY YOU MEAN ANOTHER. THIS IS A PROB; AND IN SMALL PRINT. IF ASSIGNED SILN 7 DEP DO YOU HAVE TO FIND SMALL PRINT THAT SAYS BTWN THE HRS OF XA00-XJ00 LCL YOU REALLY SHOULD FLY THE OAK 5? ALSO CLRNC DELIVERY SHOULD CLARIFY THIS IF YOU ARE REALLY FLYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU WERE GIVEN. IF OAK 5 THEN FLY IT; NOT SOMETHING DIFFERENT. THIS SHOULD BE CLRED UP. VERY MISLEADING. CALL IF YOU NEED MORE; THIS MUST BE CHANGED. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES HE FLEW THE SAME DEP AGAIN RECENTLY AND WAS GIVEN RADAR VECTORS SO THERE WAS NO PROB WITH THE DEP. THE HOTLINE WAS RECOMMENDED. COM WITH COMPANY WAS ALSO RECOMMENDED SINCE THEY ARE THE ONES WHO FILE THE DEP AND NEED TO BE AWARE OF THE PROB TOO. RPTR SUGGESTED IF THEY CANNOT CHANGE THE AMENDMENT OF THE DEP THAT PERHAPS THEY SHOULD AT LEAST PUT THE INFO IN BOLD TYPE.
Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.
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