FLC OF BAE3201 IS CLRED TO RPT AT FAF. THEY DO NOT CALL INBOUND AND LAND WITHOUT CLRNC. PROB ATTRIBUTED TO FLC BEHAVIOR FATIGUE DUE TO SCHEDULING OF REDUCED REST PERIODS AND 15 HR DUTY DAYS.

1998-02 · NASA ASRS report 393985

Date: 1998-02 · Aircraft: Jetstream 32

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-landing-without-clearance|other-unspecified

Synopsis

FLC OF BAE3201 IS CLRED TO RPT AT FAF. THEY DO NOT CALL INBOUND AND LAND WITHOUT CLRNC. PROB ATTRIBUTED TO FLC BEHAVIOR FATIGUE DUE TO SCHEDULING OF REDUCED REST PERIODS AND 15 HR DUTY DAYS.

Narrative

ON AN INST APCH INTO CGI WE WERE TOLD TO RPT FAF INBOUND. WE FAILED TO CALL INBOUND AND DID NOT RECEIVE A CLRNC TO LAND. WE DID NOT REALIZE THIS UNTIL WE WERE ROLLING OUT AFTER LNDG. THIS WAS THE SECOND TRIP TO CGI ON A SCHEDULED 15 HR DUTY DAY THAT WAS PRECEDED BY A SCHEDULED REDUCED REST. I BELIEVE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS TO THIS EVENT WERE THE REDUCED REST AND PLT FATIGUE. OUR COMPANY WILL SCHEDULE A REDUCED REST THE FIRST NIGHT OF A TRIP TO BE FOLLOWED BY A 15 HR DUTY DAY WITH 8 LEGS. I FEEL THIS WAS NOT THE INTENT OF THE REST REQUIREMENTS. REDUCED REST SHOULD BE USED WHEN CREWS ARE DELAYED DUE TO WX OR OTHER UNCTLABLE FACTORS; NOT AS A LEGAL MEANS FOR ABUSING PLT'S REST. 8 HRS OF REST TRANSLATES INTO 5 HRS OF SLEEP -- NOT NEARLY ENOUGH WHEN YOU FLY AS MANY LEGS WITHOUT AN AUTOPLT AND WITH A DUTY DAY OF 15 HRS. PLEASE HELP US GUYS OUT AND CHANGE THE REGS SO THEY CAN'T SCHEDULE REDUCED REST. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 394550: I FEEL THAT IF OUR COMPANY USED REDUCED REST AS IT IS SUPPOSED TO BE USED (REDUCED REST IS SO WHEN UNCTLED CIRCUMSTANCES CAUSE YOU TO FINISH LATE YOU CAN STILL LEAVE ON TIME IN THE MORNING); THIS LNDG WITHOUT A CLRNC WOULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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