RPTR CLAIMS A PLANNED RWY 18R APCH WAS CHANGED TO RWY 17 APCH TOO CLOSE TO THE ARPT FOR FLC TO MAKE APPROPRIATE APCH CHK. RPTEDLY; THE CTLR STATED ON INITIAL CONTACT TO EXPECT RWY 18R; RWY 17 ON REQUEST.

1998-04 · NASA ASRS report 399712

Date: 1998-04 · Aircraft: B767-300 and 300 ER

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|other-unspecified

Synopsis

RPTR CLAIMS A PLANNED RWY 18R APCH WAS CHANGED TO RWY 17 APCH TOO CLOSE TO THE ARPT FOR FLC TO MAKE APPROPRIATE APCH CHK. RPTEDLY; THE CTLR STATED ON INITIAL CONTACT TO EXPECT RWY 18R; RWY 17 ON REQUEST.

Narrative

ORL APCH CTL ASSIGNS AND CHANGES ASSIGNMENTS FOR LNDG RWYS TOO CLOSE TO THE ARPT. I AM SURE THE PEOPLE AT ORL APCH CTL HAVE THEIR REASONS FOR THIS ACTION SINCE THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR MANY YRS. HOWEVER; THE CASE OF APR/XA/98 WAS ENOUGH TO MAKE ME SUBMIT THIS RPT. INITIAL CONTACT: EXPECT RWY 18R; RWY 17 ON REQUEST; SOME VECTORS; MORE VECTORS; NOW TO THE E OF ALL RWYS; HDG 180 DEGS; MORE VECTORS; FLY ASSIGNED HDG AND INTERCEPT LOC FOR RWY 18R; 'NO; INTERCEPT LOC FOR RWY 17.' ALL OF THIS WAS TOO CLOSE TO THE ARPT. I DO NOT WANT TO EXAGGERATE THE FACTS BUT THE ACFT POS WHEN THE APCH CLRNC (RWY 18R; NO; RWY 17) WAS GIVEN WAS 1/2 MI L OF THE RWY 17 LOC AND TOO CLOSE TO THE ARPT. THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH TIME TO PERFORM A PROPER APCH CHK. NEXT TIME; I WILL MISS THE APCH AND MAKE TIME FOR A PROPER BRIEFING. THIS IS NOT AN ISOLATED EXPERIENCE FOR ORL APCH CTL. THEY REALLY SHOULD GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: ANALYST INFORMED THE RPTR OF OUR POS OF NOT BEING ABLE TO DO FOLLOW-UP INVESTIGATION OF A RPTED INCIDENT SUCH AS REVIEWING AUDIO TAPES AND OTHER DATA. RPTR STATED AN IRREGULARITY RPT WAS FILED WITH HIS COMPANY WHO IN TURN RPTED THE MATTER TO APCH CTL. RPTR FELT THE RPT DID SOME GOOD AND ALLEGES THE RESPONSE FROM APCH CTL INDICATED THERE WAS A PROB WITH THE HANDLING OF RPTR'S ACFT. RPTR STATED HIS ACFT WAS A B767-300ER. ANALYST SUGGESTED THE RPTR CALL THE FACILITY IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN AND HAVE THE TAPES HELD FOR RPTR/FACILITY REVIEW AND DISCUSSION OF HOW THE FLC IS AFFECTED BY THE CLOSE APCH CHANGE.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

Loading the flight search…

Frequently asked questions

How do I search flights by aircraft type on FlightFinder?

Pick an aircraft model — Boeing 737, Airbus A320, A380, Boeing 787 Dreamliner and more — enter your origin airport, and FlightFinder shows every route that plane flies from there with live fares.

Which aircraft types can I filter by?

We support Boeing 737/747/757/767/777/787, the full Airbus A220/A319/A320/A321/A330/A340/A350/A380 family, Embraer E170/E175/E190/E195, Bombardier CRJ and Dash 8, and the ATR 42/72 turboprops.

Is FlightFinder free to use?

Search and schedules are free. Pro ($4.99/month, $39/year, or $99 one-time lifetime) unlocks the enriched flight card — on-time stats, CO₂ per passenger, amenities, live gate & weather — plus My Trips with push alerts.

Where does the route data come from?

Live schedules come from Amadeus, AeroDataBox and Travelpayouts. Observed routes (which aircraft actually flew a given city pair) are crowdsourced from adsb.lol ADS-B data under the Open Database License.