ACR FO APPARENTLY NOT ABLE TO GET PIC'S FOCUS TO THE ACTIVITY AT HAND. PIC UNABLE TO MEET ALT XING RESTRS; BEING PROMPTED BY THE FO TO COMPLETE COCKPIT RESPONSIBILITIES. FO BELIEVES WHAT HAPPENED IS FURTHER JUSTIFICATION FOR CRM REGS.

1998-06 · NASA ASRS report 406350

Date: 1998-06 · Aircraft: Challenger CL604

Anomalies: deviation-altitude-crossing-restriction-not-met|deviation-altitude-undershoot|deviation-track-heading-all-types|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|other-unspecified

Synopsis

ACR FO APPARENTLY NOT ABLE TO GET PIC'S FOCUS TO THE ACTIVITY AT HAND. PIC UNABLE TO MEET ALT XING RESTRS; BEING PROMPTED BY THE FO TO COMPLETE COCKPIT RESPONSIBILITIES. FO BELIEVES WHAT HAPPENED IS FURTHER JUSTIFICATION FOR CRM REGS.

Narrative

DSNDING INTO TORONTO; ONTARIO; ENRTE FROM CHARLOTTE; NC; WE WERE CLRED LATE FOR THE PROFILE DSCNT RWY 6 INTO TORONTO. DUE TO THE LATE CLRNC WE WERE STILL PRETTY HIGH FL240 OR HIGHER. WE ACCEPTED THE CLRNC AND STARTED COMING DOWN. WHEN CALCULATING OUR RATE OF DSCNT WE NEEDED TO MEET THE XING RESTR; I STARTED TO REALIZE THAT WE PROBABLY WOULD NOT MAKE THIS. I ASKED THE CAPT IF HE WANTED TO LET TORONTO KNOW THAT WE PROBABLY WOULD NOT MAKE THE RESTR (BTWN 10000-11000 FT AND 250 KTS). THE CAPT RESPONDED BY PLACING THE ACFT IN A 5500 FPM DSCNT WITH PWR AT IDLE AND FLT SPOILERS AT FULL EXTENSION. I ASKED THE CAPT AGAIN WITH 8 MI TO GO IF HE WANTED RELIEF FROM THE XING RESTR AND HE SAID 'NO.' WE CROSSED LINNG INTXN AT 12000 FT. THEN WE WERE VECTORED FOR THE ILS RWY 6R APCH INTO TORONTO. THE CAPT DID NOT PLACE THE LOC INTO HIS NAV TUNER. I CALLED 'LOC ALIVE' AND 'WE'RE THROUGH THE LOC' AND REALIZED HE DID NOT HAVE THE CORRECT FREQ IN HIS NAV TUNER. I TUNED IN THE CORRECT FREQ. THE CAPT WAS USING THE AUTOPLT TO FLY. THE CAPT WENT FULL SCALE ON THE LOC AGAIN. THE CAPT STARTED COMING BACK AND WAS ABOUT TO GO THROUGH THE LOC AGAIN WHEN I SAID; 'DO YOU HAVE THE RWY IN SIGHT; WE'RE ABOUT TO GO THROUGH THE LOC AGAIN.' HE COMMENTED BY SAYING; 'WELL; I'M TRYING TO USE THIS DAMNED AUTOPLT.' I STATED; 'WELL TURN IT OFF.' WE LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. I'M SURE THE TORONTO CTLRS WERE WONDERING WHAT WAS GOING ON. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS CAPT WAS WAY BEHIND THE ACFT. THE CAPT WAS NOT WILLING TO LISTEN TO HIS FO OR THE CTLR. I FEEL CRM MUST BECOME MANDATORY FOR COMMUTER AIRLINE CREWS. WE'RE IN GENERAL YOUNGER; MORE INEXPERIENCED CREWS FLYING TODAY'S MOST RECENTLY MADE JETS. WE NEED APPROVED CRM PROGRAMS.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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