ON TAXI ONBOARD B727; CABIN ATTENDANTS NOT ABLE TO DO SAFETY BRIEFING DUE TO LACK OF SUFFICIENT WARNING FROM FLC FOR TKOF. #2 CABIN ATTENDANT NOT ABLE TO TAKE JUMP SEAT AND COVER EXIT FOR TKOF.

1998-08 · NASA ASRS report 412500

Date: 1998-08 · Aircraft: B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|other-unspecified

Synopsis

ON TAXI ONBOARD B727; CABIN ATTENDANTS NOT ABLE TO DO SAFETY BRIEFING DUE TO LACK OF SUFFICIENT WARNING FROM FLC FOR TKOF. #2 CABIN ATTENDANT NOT ABLE TO TAKE JUMP SEAT AND COVER EXIT FOR TKOF.

Narrative

I FEEL THE PROB AROSE BECAUSE OF THE OVERALL LACK OF COM BTWN THE COCKPIT AND CABIN CREW. IT WAS OUR SECOND DAY OF THE TRIP SEQUENCE AND ONLY OUR SECOND LEG. THERE WAS NEVER ANY BRIEFING BY OUR CAPT. THE FLT ITSELF WAS LEAVING PORTLAND; ME; AND GOING TO NEWARK. WE HAD AN ENTIRE PLANE FULL OF CAMP KIDS; SO BOARDING WAS A LITTLE HECTIC. WE DID INDEED HAVE ALL OVERHEAD BINS CLOSED AND THOUGHT THE LUGGAGE WAS ALL STOWED PROPERLY. I HAD ONLY MADE IT BACK TO THE AFT GALLEY TO CHK PERSONALLY. I LET THE AGENT CLOSE THE DOOR. WE ARMED AND I LOOKED BACK TO SEE MY 'C' FLT ATTENDANT WALKING UP THE AISLE WITH A BAG. A COUPLE OF PAX WERE STILL UP FINDING (ACTUALLY SWITCHING) SEATS. I THEN TOLD THE COCKPIT I STILL HAD PEOPLE UP SINCE THEY WERE BEGINNING PUSHBACK. I QUICKLY WENT TO HELP MY OTHER FLT ATTENDANT STOW THE BAG AND GET THE PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY SEATED. THE COCKPIT DOOR WAS STILL OPEN AT THIS POINT AND THEY HAD BEGUN THEIR TAXI. I GOT A COUNT AND BY THE TIME I GOT TO THE FRONT; THE COCKPIT DOOR WAS SHUT. I OPENED IT AND GAVE THEM THE COUNT. MY OTHER FLT ATTENDANTS WERE SECURING THEIR GALLEYS AND RETRIEVING FIRST CLASS PREDEPS. WE THEN IMMEDIATELY GOT OUR DEMONSTRATION EQUIP (MY CARDS). AT THIS POINT WE WERE MOVING PRETTY QUICK AND MY 'C' FLT ATTENDANT WAS EVEN HAVING DIFFICULTY GETTING TO THE FORWARD PART OF THE MAIN CABIN. WE BEGAN THE DEMONSTRATION AND AS WE WERE BEGINNING; MY 'B' FLT ATTENDANT LITERALLY LOOKED AT ME AND SAID 'ARE WE TAKING OFF?' WE WERE MOVING SO FAST. WE WERE FINISHING THE SEATBELTS WHEN THE SO SAID 'FLT ATTENDANTS BE SEATED FOR DEP.' I DID REACH OVER AND HIT THE COCKPIT DOOR BUT TO NO AVAIL. AT THIS POINT WE WERE SO FAR INTO TKOF I DON'T THINK THEY HEARD IT OR IGNORED IT. MY 'B' COULDN'T EVEN GET BACK TO HER JUMP SEAT IN TIME AND JUMPED INTO THE FORWARD ONE AND STILL WAS UNABLE TO EVEN GET COMPLETELY STRAPPED IN BEFORE THE NOSE WAS OFF THE GND. MY 'C' FLT ATTENDANT ALSO TOLD ME SHE WAS UNABLE TO GET STRAPPED IN. AS SOON AS WE WERE UP; I INTERPHONED AND MY SO APOLOGIZED AND SAID HE'D NEVER BEEN IN THIS SIT BEFORE. I REPLIED THAT NEITHER HAVE I AND HE SAID 'NO; I'VE NEVER BEEN IN THIS SIT BEFORE.' HE; TOO; TOLD ME HE HAD POOR COM WITH THE FO AND CAPT. I ASKED THE SO TO INFORM THE CAPT; WHOM NEVER RESPONDED IN ANY WAY. WE DID DO THE DEMONSTRATION SHORTLY AFTER TKOF AND NONE OF THE PAX SEEMED TO TAKE NOTICE. HOWEVER; I WAS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE SIT. IT WAS INDEED THE SHORTEST TAXI AND TKOF I HAD EVER EXPERIENCED; BUT I SHOULD HAVE BEEN INFORMED AND WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T CARE WHERE WE WERE IN OUR DUTIES I WOULD HAVE MADE SURE THEY KNEW. COM IS KEY AND WAS LOST.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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