RPTR STATES THAT ON 2 SEPARATE OCCASIONS; ACFT THAT WERE UNDER HIS CTL WERE LESS THAN 2 PT 5 MI FROM THE BOUNDARY OF AN ADJACENT SECTOR WITHOUT A POINTOUT. THIS IS CONTRARY TO THE FAA HANDBOOK; PARAGRAPH 5-5-9.

1999-02 · NASA ASRS report 427663

Date: 1999-02 · Aircraft: Thunderbolt II (Warthog A-10)

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|other-airspace-violation-entry-or-exit

Synopsis

RPTR STATES THAT ON 2 SEPARATE OCCASIONS; ACFT THAT WERE UNDER HIS CTL WERE LESS THAN 2 PT 5 MI FROM THE BOUNDARY OF AN ADJACENT SECTOR WITHOUT A POINTOUT. THIS IS CONTRARY TO THE FAA HANDBOOK; PARAGRAPH 5-5-9.

Narrative

ON FEB/XA/99 I (PERSON 1) WAS TRAINING AT RADAR SECTOR R50 WITH INSTRUCTOR (PERSON 2). I AM RECERTIFYING AT THE POS BECAUSE MY TRAINING WAS STOPPED FOR A YR. INSTRUCTOR (PERSON 4) WAS WORKING MY HDOF POS; RA50. HE WAS TRAINING PERSON 3. 2 POSSIBLE OPERATIONAL DEVS OCCURRED DURING THE TRAINING SESSION. A MINIMUM OF 6 CTLRS KNEW ABOUT THE DEVS; AND ONE OF THEM RPTED THE DEVS. ATTACHED IS A COPY OF AN ATC STRIP ON ACFT X. THE TIME WAS AROUND XA00Z WHEN THE ACFT ALMOST ENTERED RADAR SECTOR R35'S AIRSPACE. I ASKED PERSON 4 AND PERSON 3; HAD THEY MADE A POINTOUT TO SECTOR R35. AT THAT TIME PERSON 3 CALLED THE SECTOR TO MAKE A POINTOUT. THE ACFT WAS WELL WITHIN 2.5 MI OF SECTOR R35'S AIRSPACE. UNLESS ZBW GAVE SECTOR R35 A POINTOUT TO TURN THE ACFT; AN OPDEV OCCURRED. AROUND 10 MINS PRIOR TO THIS INCIDENT; THE FIRST OPDEV OCCURRED. I DO NOT REMEMBER THE CALL SIGN OF THE ACFT BECAUSE SOMEONE HAD TAKEN THE ATC STRIP. I COULD NOT FIND THE STRIP TO MAKE A COPY OF IT. ACFT Y WAS A FLT LNDG SYRACUSE; NY. THE ACFT WAS GOING DIRECT BGM VOR ABOUT 30 MI S OF IT. I OBSERVED THE ACFT VERY CLOSE TO RADAR SECTOR R51'S AIRSPACE. I CAN BE HEARD ON THE ATC TAPE GIVING THE ACFT A L TURN OF 10 DEGS TO STAY IN MY AIRSPACE. WHEN PERSON 3 HEARD ME GIVE THE ACFT A TURN; HE CALLED SECTOR R51 WITH A POINTOUT. PERSON 4; WHO WAS INSTRUCTING PERSON 3; ASKED ME; COULD HE USE MY RANGE BEARING RADAR EQUIP. HE MEASURED THE DISTANCE FROM THE ACFT TO SECTOR R51'S BOUNDARY. HE TOLD PERSON 3 THAT IT WAS 2.1 MI AND THAT IT WAS TOO CLOSE. AN OPDEV HAD OCCURRED. TFC WAS MODERATE TO HVY DURING THE TRAINING SESSION. I STARTED OUT BY HELPING PERSON 3 WITH HIS DUTIES. I WAS TOLD BY MY HDOF POS; THAT THEY WANTED TO PERFORM THEIR JOB WITHOUT ANY HELP.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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