TRAINING FLT CHK AIRMEN SIMULATED ENG FAILURE ON TKOF AND ENTERED CLASS B AIRSPACE WITHOUT CLRNC.

1999-02 · NASA ASRS report 428450

Date: 1999-02 · Aircraft: HS 125 Series 600 · Phase: climb

Anomalies: airspace-violation-all-types|deviation-altitude-overshoot|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far

Synopsis

TRAINING FLT CHK AIRMEN SIMULATED ENG FAILURE ON TKOF AND ENTERED CLASS B AIRSPACE WITHOUT CLRNC.

Narrative

THIS INCIDENT OCCURRED AT THE END OF A LONG DUTY DAY. BOTH CREW MEMBERS HAD BEEN ON DUTY FOR APPROX 12.5 HRS IN OPS UNDER PART 135 (4 LEGS). THE FLT WAS THE CONTINUATION OF A CHK RIDE UNDER 135.293. I WAS THE PIC/CHK AIRMAN (SITTING IN L SEAT). THE EXAMINEE WAS A FO. WE HAD AN IFR FLT PLAN ON FILE FOR THE FIRST LEG OF THE CHK FLT (BED-PWM). SHORTLY BEFORE TKOF; BECAUSE I WISHED TO SIMULATE AN ENG FAILURE AFTER TKOF; I ADVISED THE TWR THAT WE WOULD NOT PICK UP OUR IFR CLRNC BUT WOULD INSTEAD DEPART VFR. I NEGLECTED TO PLAN AND BRIEF THE EFFECT THIS LAST MIN DECISION WOULD HAVE ON OUR OPS NEAR THE BOUNDARY OF THE BOS CLASS B AIRSPACE. SHORTLY AFTER LIFTOFF; I SIMULATED THE FAILURE OF 1 ENG BY RETARDING THE PWR LEVER TO IDLE. MY ATTN WAS THEN FOCUSED ON LOOKING OUT FOR TFC AND MONITORING/EVALUATING THE MANNER IN WHICH THE FO HANDLED THE EMER AND USED/CALLED FOR THE APPROPRIATE CHKLISTS (WHICH WERE THEN READ BY ME). I OBTAINED AND TUNED IN THE APPROPRIATE FREQ FOR CLASS B AIRSPACE (BOS APCH). THE FLOOR OF CLASS B AT THIS LOCATION WAS 4000 FT. DISTR BY THE SIMULATED EMER; I FAILED TO CALL FOR AND OBTAIN CLASS B CLRNC BEFORE REACHING 4000 FT MSL. JUST AFTER WE PASSED 4000 FT MSL; BOS APCH CALLED US ON THE FREQ WE WERE MONITORING; SAYING 'CALL SIGN ARE YOU ON FREQ?' WE IMMEDIATELY ANSWERED. HE SAID 'IFR OR VFR?' WE SAID VFR. HE SAID 'YOU ARE INSIDE THE CLASS B.' HE THEN CLRED US TO CONTINUE OUR CLB. CAUSE OF INCIDENT: FAILURE TO PROPERLY PLAN AND BRIEF THE TKOF AND CLB AND TRAINING EVENT. RECOMMENDATIONS: INCIDENT PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED IF TWR AT ARPTS NEAR OR BENEATH TCA WERE TO SAY TO DEPARTING ACFT SOMETHING LIKE 'CONTACT XXXX ON FREQ -- IF CLASS B CLRNC IS DESIRED;' OR 'FOR CLASS B CLRNC; IF DESIRED; CONTACT XXXX ON FREQ XXX.XX.' THE IDEA BEING TO ENSURE PLT IS THINKING ABOUT CLASS B CLRNC REQUIREMENTS. 2) CONDUCT ALL CHK RIDES UNDER IFR.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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