B737 CREW WAS GIVEN A GAR WHEN THEY REFUSED A VISUAL APCH IN IMC CONDITIONS.

1999-08 · NASA ASRS report 445542

Date: 1999-08 · Aircraft: B737-300 · Phase: approach

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far|inflight-event-encounter-vfr-in-imc|inflight-event-encounter-weather-turbulence

Synopsis

B737 CREW WAS GIVEN A GAR WHEN THEY REFUSED A VISUAL APCH IN IMC CONDITIONS.

Narrative

ROUTINE FLT FROM LAX UNTIL ENTERING HOLDING AT BSR. AFTER HOLDING ABOUT 40 MINS WE WERE VECTORED IN SEQUENCE FOR AN APCH TO SFO ILS RWY 28R. WX WAS OVCST N OF THE DUMBARTON BRIDGE AND THE LOC TO RWY 28L WAS OTS. AFTER MANY TURNS WE WERE VECTORED ONTO THE LOC AND CLRED FOR THE ILS RWY 28R. 5 MI OUTSIDE OF THE FAF (BRIDGE) WE WERE TOLD TO START LOOKING FOR AN ACR Y FLT WHO WAS ON A VISUAL TO RWY 28L (LOC OUT). HE WAS NOT VISIBLE AT THIS TIME AND I TOLD ATC WE DID NOT SEE HIM. HE SOON CAME INTO SIGHT HIGH AND TO THE L AS HE PASSED US UP. WE WERE TOLD HE HAD US IN SIGHT. SINCE THERE WAS A CLR UNDERCAST BTWN THE ARPT AND US; THERE WAS NO WAY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO KEEP HIM OR THE ARPT IN SIGHT. WE WERE CLRLY FLYING AN IFR APCH DSNDING INTO IMC CONDITIONS; WHICH WERE ABOUT 300 FT THICK FROM ABOUT 2100 FT TO 1800 FT. THE APCH CTLR WAS NOTICEABLY ANNOYED THAT WE WOULD NOT CALL THE OTHER TFC IN SIGHT AND RELEASE HIM OF SEPARATION. WE TOLD HIM WE COULD NOT KEEP ACR Y IN SIGHT; AND THEN HE SAID WE WOULD HAVE TO GAR. I RELENTED RELUCTANTLY AND CALLED THE TFC; AS GOING AROUND IN MY OPINION WOULD REPRESENT A BIGGER PROB DUE TO FUEL AND WX. I FELT VERY COMPROMISED BY BEING PUT IN THIS SIT BY ATC. THE FOLLOWING PROBS WERE VERY APPARENT TO ME: 1) I WAS ON AN IFR APCH TO AN IMC ARPT. I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO GO AROUND BECAUSE SOMEONE IS TRYING TO PULL OFF A BOGUS VISUAL APCH. 2) IF ANYONE SHOULD HAVE BEEN PULLED OUT OF THE PATTERN IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE VFR ACFT. 3) ALTHOUGH I WAS NOT IN THE ACR Y COCKPIT I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT HE COULD SEE THE ARPT AND WAS ESPECIALLY CONCERNED THE RWY 28L LOC WAS OTS. 4) THE NEED TO SHOOT VISUALS IS IMPORTANT BUT NOT SO IMPORTANT THAT PLTS AND ATC SHOULD CHOOSE UNSAFE SEPARATION TO 'PUSH' PLTS FOR ARRS. 5) ATC IS OUT OF CTL AND WHEN THEY DON'T HEAR EXACTLY WHAT THEY WANT TO; THEY INVOKE 'PUNITIVE CTLING' WHICH IS AN UNSAFE OP. 6) I DO NOT APPRECIATE BEING PUT IN A POS BY ATC OR THE ACR Y THAT MAKES IT NECESSARY FOR ME TO HAVE TO DECREASE SAFETY LEVELS.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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