2000-02 · NASA ASRS report 462506
ACR FLT PROVIDED 'EMER' TERRAIN-AVOIDANCE VECTORS BY ATC ON APCH TO LNY.
WE WERE ON RADAR VECTORS TO INTERCEPT THE 10 DME ARC FROM LNY VOR AND CLRED FOR THE ILS RWY 3 APCH ONCE ESTABLISHED ON THE LOC COURSE INBOUND (033 DEGS ON ILNY 111.1). WE WERE ALSO ADVISED TO MAINTAIN 3000 FT UNTIL ESTABLISHED. THE CAPT BRIEFED THE APCH AND TUNED AND IDENTED THE NAVAIDS. WE WERE IN AND OUT OF IMC AS WE STARTED TO TURN ON THE DME ARC. MOMENTS AFTER WE WERE ON THE ARC; THE CDI NEEDLE CAME IN AND WE STARTED TO HEAD INBOUND AND DSND TO 2600 FT (GS INTERCEPT ALT). AROUND 8 DME; CTR CALLED FOR AN IMMEDIATE TURN TO 180 DEGS AND CLB TO 6000 FT. WE RESPONDED THAT WE HAD INTERCEPTED THE LOC INBOUND AND THAT'S WHY WE WERE INSIDE THE 10 DME ARC. THEY INSISTED WE NOW TURN TO 220 DEGS AND CLB TO 6000 FT FOR TERRAIN CLRNC; SO WE COMPLIED EVEN THOUGH BOTH OUR INSTS INDICATED WE WERE ON COURSE. AS FOR TERRAIN CLRNC WE WERE OVER THE OCEAN AND THE ARPT ELEVATION AND SURROUNDING AREA IS APPROX 1300 FT MSL (WITH 3100 FT HILLS TO THE N). AFTER THE START OF THIS EVASIVE MANEUVER CTR CAME BACK WITHIN +/-15 SECONDS AND ASKED IF WE HAD THE FIELD IN SIGHT AT OUR 9 O'CLOCK POS. WE WERE AT ABOUT 4200 FT AND VMC AND THE CAPT DID HAVE THE FIELD SO WE WERE CLRED FOR THE VISUAL. WE HAD AN UNEVENTFUL LNDG BUT WERE VERY PERPLEXED AS TO WHAT HAD HAPPENED. TWO OTHER ACFT SHOT THE SAME APCH RIGHT AFTER US AND ASIDE FROM A SLIGHT ILS GS 'HICCUP' THEY HAD NO PROBS. WE RETURNED TO OUR HNL BASE AND TOLD MAINT -- THEY ARE INVESTIGATING THE AVIONICS EQUIP BUT AS FAR AS I KNOW FOUND NOTHING WRONG. ON OUR RETURN TO HNL; CTR ADVISED OVER THE RADIO THAT WE HAD GIVEN THEM 'A REAL HEADS UP;' THEY SAID A SIMILAR REMARK TO AIR DISPATCH BUT SAID NO PAPERWORK NEEDED TO BE FILED. THE WHOLE SIT HAS BOTHERED ME BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS AN INST PROB; AN OVER-REACTIVE NEW CTLR OR A PLT ERROR THAT NEITHER THE CAPT OR MYSELF RECOGNIZED. FURTHERMORE; BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT REALLY HAPPENED I'M AFRAID IT COULD HAPPEN AGAIN TO ME OR SOMEONE ELSE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR COULD NOT PROVIDE ANY ADDITIONAL INFO ON THE INCIDENT; AND DENIES ANY POSSIBILITY OF HAVING INADVERTENTLY FLOWN A 'BACK COURSE' TYPE APCH ON THE VOR. IN FACT; SHE NOTED THAT SHE AND HER CAPT THOUGHT OF THAT POSSIBILITY IMMEDIATELY WHEN PROVIDED THE EMER VECTOR BY ATC; BUT A THOROUGH CHK INDICATED THAT ALL INST READINGS; FREQS; ETC; WERE AS THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN. THIS WAS FURTHER VERIFIED VISUALLY.
Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.
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