B757 CAPT ALLOWED PAX IN COCKPIT WHILE HOLDING ON THE TXWY FOR DEP TO HELP CALM A DISGRUNTLED PAX THE REASONS FOR THE DELAY. THIS WAS CONTRARY TO COMPANY RULES AFTER THE ACFT LEAVES THE GATE.

2001-05 · NASA ASRS report 512944

Date: 2001-05 · Aircraft: B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model · Phase: taxi

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy

Synopsis

B757 CAPT ALLOWED PAX IN COCKPIT WHILE HOLDING ON THE TXWY FOR DEP TO HELP CALM A DISGRUNTLED PAX THE REASONS FOR THE DELAY. THIS WAS CONTRARY TO COMPANY RULES AFTER THE ACFT LEAVES THE GATE.

Narrative

LOTS OF PROBS ON THE GND THAT OUR PAX HAD TO ENDURE WHILE TRYING TO DEPART ORLANDO. AFTER FIRST PUSHBACK; OPS CALLED TO TELL US THE WTS WERE WRONG; SO WE RETURNED TO GATE. ON SECOND PUSHBACK; OUR APU DIED JUST BEFORE ENG START. BACK TO THE GATE AGAIN; WITH INADEQUATE EXTERNAL AIR CONDITIONING; CABIN TEMP WAS APPROX 85 DEGS. AFTER THIRD PUSH; WE HAD TO WAIT ANOTHER 1.5 HRS ON THE TXWY BEFORE TKOF DUE TO WX. APU WAS INOP AND COULD ONLY USE 1 ENG (TO PRESERVE MINIMUM TKOF FUEL) SO CABIN TEMP REMAINED APPROX 85 DEGS. ABOUT 1 HR INTO OUR DELAY; AND AFTER NUMEROUS COMPLAINTS FROM PAX; THE CAPT INVITED ONE PARTICULARLY UNCOMFORTABLE PAX TO THE COCKPIT. THE CAPT DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB OF EXPLAINING THE SIT TO THE PAX FACE-TO-FACE TO INCLUDE SHOWING HIM THE INDICATIONS OF OUR WX RADAR. THE PAX FELT MUCH BETTER AFTERWARDS. THIS ALL TOOK PLACE ON THE GND; BRAKES SET. HOWEVER; LATER WE DISCOVERED THAT BY THE EXACT LETTER OF COMPANY REGS; THAT PAX WAS NOT ALLOWED IN THE COCKPIT BECAUSE WE WERE AWAY FROM THE GATE. OUR MISTAKE.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

Loading the flight search…

Frequently asked questions

How do I search flights by aircraft type on FlightFinder?

Pick an aircraft model — Boeing 737, Airbus A320, A380, Boeing 787 Dreamliner and more — enter your origin airport, and FlightFinder shows every route that plane flies from there with live fares.

Which aircraft types can I filter by?

We support Boeing 737/747/757/767/777/787, the full Airbus A220/A319/A320/A321/A330/A340/A350/A380 family, Embraer E170/E175/E190/E195, Bombardier CRJ and Dash 8, and the ATR 42/72 turboprops.

Is FlightFinder free to use?

Search and schedules are free. Pro ($4.99/month, $39/year, or $99 one-time lifetime) unlocks the enriched flight card — on-time stats, CO₂ per passenger, amenities, live gate & weather — plus My Trips with push alerts.

Where does the route data come from?

Live schedules come from Amadeus, AeroDataBox and Travelpayouts. Observed routes (which aircraft actually flew a given city pair) are crowdsourced from adsb.lol ADS-B data under the Open Database License.