MD80 CREW ENTERED TXWY Q AT CYYZ WITHOUT SPECIFIC CLRNC. COMPANY DID NOT PROVIDE NOTAM OF THIS TO THE CREW.

2001-06 · NASA ASRS report 514677

Date: 2001-06 · Aircraft: MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model · Phase: taxi

Anomalies: conflict-ground-conflict|less-severe|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-other-unknown|ground-event-encounter-other-unknown|ground-incursion-runway|other-acr-notam-dissemination|arpt-policy|sinage

Synopsis

MD80 CREW ENTERED TXWY Q AT CYYZ WITHOUT SPECIFIC CLRNC. COMPANY DID NOT PROVIDE NOTAM OF THIS TO THE CREW.

Narrative

INCOMPLETE NOTAM. A NOTE IN THE FLT PLAN SAID TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 23 AT INTXN OF TXWY Q AND TXWY H; WHICH WE DID. WE WERE CLRED INTO POS AND HOLD BY TWR; SO WE USED TXWY Q FOR FULL LENGTH. WHILE TAKING RWY; WE NOTICED AN AIRPLANE ON SHORT AND FINAL WE ASKED TWR TO CONFIRMED POS AND HOLD RWY 23. AFTER SOME HESITATION; THEY CONFIRMED OUR CLRNC AND THEN DECIDED TO HAVE AIRPLANE ON SHORT FINAL GO AROUND. THEY THEN SAID THAT THERE IS A NOTAM NOT TO USE TXWY Q UNLESS APPROVED BY ATC AND CLRED US FOR TKOF. I WISH TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING POINTS: 1) THE NOTE IN THE FLT PLAN JUST SAYS TO HOLD SHORT AT THE INTXN OF TXWY Q AND TXWY H. IT DOESN'T SAY NOT TO USE TXWY Q TO APCH THE RWY. I COULD NOT FIND ANY OTHER NOTAM ABOUT THIS ANYWHERE. 2) THERE WERE 2 DIFFERENT VOICES ON THE TWR FREQ. SUGGESTING EITHER SHIFT CHANGE OR TRAINING. AFTER CLRING US INTO POS; WE WERE GIVEN NO FURTHER CLRNC UNTIL WE ASKED ABOUT IT APPROX 2 MINS LATER. 3) EVEN IF WE HAD USED TXWY H TO APCH THE RWY; THE AIRPLANE ON FINAL WOULD HAVE HAD TO GO AROUND ANYWAY BECAUSE WE STILL HAD NOT RECEIVED TKOF CLRNC AT THE TIME WE QUESTIONED ATC ABOUT IT. OUR USING TXWY Q HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GAR. IN FACT; IF WE HAD USED TXWY H; WE WOULD ALREADY HAVE LINED UP WITH RWY 23 AND WOULD NEVER HAVE SEEN THE AIRPLANE APCHING US FROM BEHIND. 4) I SUGGEST ADDING A STATEMENT ABOUT NOT USING TXWY Q WITHOUT ATC APPROVAL TO THE FLT PLAN SINCE THAT IS APPARENTLY THE PROC THEY WISH US TO USE.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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