MD80 CREW FORGOT TO TURN PAX SEATBELT SIGN ON BEFORE TKOF AND HAD 2 MINOR ALT OVERSHOOTS.

2001-06 · NASA ASRS report 515703

Date: 2001-06 · Aircraft: MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model · Phase: climb

Anomalies: deviation-altitude-overshoot|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|inflight-event-encounter-other-unknown|inflight-event-encounter-weather-turbulence|other-forgot-seat-belt-sign

Synopsis

MD80 CREW FORGOT TO TURN PAX SEATBELT SIGN ON BEFORE TKOF AND HAD 2 MINOR ALT OVERSHOOTS.

Narrative

SEATBELT SIGN OFF ON TKOF; ALT EXCURSION. DEPARTED THE GATE TO A 1 HR 31 MIN WX HOLD; WHERE WE SHUT DOWN AND RESTARTED ENGS. WHEN #1 DEPS WERE RESTOPPED; I SHUT DOWN 1 ENG AND TURNED OFF HIGH LOAD ELECTRICAL ITEMS AND THE SEATBELT SIGN. UPON RELEASE; RESTARTED ALL ENGS AND MADE PA TO FASTEN SEATBELTS. DEPARTED NORMALLY WEAVING AROUND WX. WHILE CLBING; I MADE PA 'FLT ATTENDANTS REMAIN IN YOUR SEATS.' APCHING 15000 FT; RECEIVED 3 CALLS FROM FLT ATTENDANTS ABOUT GETTING UP. WAS ALSO EVALUATING THE WX TO FIND THE PROMISED 'HOLE.' FLT ATTENDANT CALLED TO SAY 'TURN ON THE SEATBELT SIGN;' WHICH I DID. I ASSUME I FORGOT TO TURN IT ON ON THE GND; AS I DIDN'T CYCLE THE NO SMOKE OR TOUCH THE SEATBELT SIGN. ON LEVELOFF AT 15000 FT; THE FO WAS STILL HAND FLYING AND OVERSHOT TO 15300 FT BEFORE I COULD INTERCEDE. HE WAS USING INAPPROPRIATE FGS MODES; AND OVERSHOT THE LEVELOFF AT 17000 FT TO 17300 FT ALSO; STILL HAND FLYING. HE THEN WAS PUZZLED ABOUT THE CTLS AND FGS. HE EVENTUALLY ENGAGED THE AUTOPLT. I CONSIDERED COMMENTS TO HELP AND ALMOST TOOK CTL OF THE ACFT; BUT DID NOT CHOOSE TO DO SO BECAUSE OF THE TENSION IN THE COCKPIT CAUSED BY THE MONTH OF CONFLICT BTWN US. I WILL DETAIL THIS COMPLETELY TO PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS. I FELT HIS USUAL REACTION TO MY INPUTS MIGHT DELAY RETURNING THE ACFT TO ASSIGNED ALT. THIS IS MY FIRST PROB FO AND MAYBE I DID NOT ASSUME CTL QUICK ENOUGH. FACTORS INCLUDE: EXTENSIVE DELAYS FOR WX THE 2 DAYS -- 9.59 LAYOVER AT LGA; FLT ATTENDANT DISTRS; CALLS TO HOU APCH THE NIGHT BEFORE OVER MESSED UP DEP CLRNC DAY PRIOR -- NOT OUR FAULT -- GENERAL POOR CREW INTERACTIONS DESPITE MY EFFORTS DURING THE MONTH.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

Loading the flight search…

Frequently asked questions

How do I search flights by aircraft type on FlightFinder?

Pick an aircraft model — Boeing 737, Airbus A320, A380, Boeing 787 Dreamliner and more — enter your origin airport, and FlightFinder shows every route that plane flies from there with live fares.

Which aircraft types can I filter by?

We support Boeing 737/747/757/767/777/787, the full Airbus A220/A319/A320/A321/A330/A340/A350/A380 family, Embraer E170/E175/E190/E195, Bombardier CRJ and Dash 8, and the ATR 42/72 turboprops.

Is FlightFinder free to use?

Search and schedules are free. Pro ($4.99/month, $39/year, or $99 one-time lifetime) unlocks the enriched flight card — on-time stats, CO₂ per passenger, amenities, live gate & weather — plus My Trips with push alerts.

Where does the route data come from?

Live schedules come from Amadeus, AeroDataBox and Travelpayouts. Observed routes (which aircraft actually flew a given city pair) are crowdsourced from adsb.lol ADS-B data under the Open Database License.