A C172 CFI HAS A PROB WITH ACFT IDENT AND TURNED BASE TOO EARLY AT DAB; FL.

2002-02 · NASA ASRS report 537693

Date: 2002-02 · Aircraft: Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 · Phase: approach

Anomalies: atc-issue-all-types|conflict-airborne-conflict|deviation-track-heading-all-types|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|other-acft-id

Synopsis

A C172 CFI HAS A PROB WITH ACFT IDENT AND TURNED BASE TOO EARLY AT DAB; FL.

Narrative

WHILE ON A R DOWNWIND IN THE PATTERN FOR RWY 7R AT DAB; I LOST SIGHT OF THE CESSNA WE WERE SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW; AS A RESULT OF MY ATTN BEING MOMENTARILY DIVERTED BY THE STUDENT PLT THAT WAS FLYING. I TOOK CTL OF THE AIRPLANE AND CONTINUED DOWNWIND. SHORTLY THEREAFTER; ATC ADVISED US THAT THE CESSNA WE WERE TO FOLLOW HAD TURNED BASE TOO EARLY AND CUT OFF SEVERAL ACFT ON FINAL; AND TO CONTINUE DOWNWIND TO FOLLOW MOONEY ON FINAL. A FEW MOMENTS LATER; I SAW A MOONEY ON FINAL; ABEAM OUR POS AND STARTED TO TURN BASE TO FOLLOW. AS I HAD NEARLY COMPLETED THE 90 DEG R TURN; I SAW ANOTHER MOONEY ABOUT 1 MI AWAY COMING NEARLY AT US; AND I EXECUTED A 270 DEG R TURN BACK TO DOWNWIND; REALIZING THAT THE FIRST MOONEY I SAW WAS ON FINAL FOR RWY 7L; THE PARALLEL RWY. THIS OCCURRED ON AN EXTENDED DOWNWIND FOR RWY 7R ABOUT 3 MI FROM THE RWY THRESHOLD. THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER ACFT IN THE PATTERN WHICH MIGHT HAVE CREATED A COLLISION HAZARD; THOUGH I DON'T BELIEVE IT DID. ATC THEN ASKED WHO HAD MADE THE EARLY BASE TURN AND THE FOLLOWING TURN. NOW THAT THERE WAS SILENCE ON THE FREQ; I ADVISED ATC THAT WE HAD TURNED EARLY BUT NOW HAD THE CORRECT MOONEY IN SIGHT. WE WERE TOLD TO FOLLOW IT AND CLRED TO LAND. I DO NOT BELIEVE ATC EVER GAVE THE POS OF THE MOONEY INITIALLY JUST THAT IT WAS 'A MOONEY ON FINAL.' DUE TO MY INITIAL PERCEPTION; I TURNED BASE TOO EARLY; BELIEVING THE MOONEY THAT WAS FINAL FOR RWY 7L WAS ON FINAL FOR RWY 7R.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

Loading the flight search…

Frequently asked questions

How do I search flights by aircraft type on FlightFinder?

Pick an aircraft model — Boeing 737, Airbus A320, A380, Boeing 787 Dreamliner and more — enter your origin airport, and FlightFinder shows every route that plane flies from there with live fares.

Which aircraft types can I filter by?

We support Boeing 737/747/757/767/777/787, the full Airbus A220/A319/A320/A321/A330/A340/A350/A380 family, Embraer E170/E175/E190/E195, Bombardier CRJ and Dash 8, and the ATR 42/72 turboprops.

Is FlightFinder free to use?

Search and schedules are free. Pro ($4.99/month, $39/year, or $99 one-time lifetime) unlocks the enriched flight card — on-time stats, CO₂ per passenger, amenities, live gate & weather — plus My Trips with push alerts.

Where does the route data come from?

Live schedules come from Amadeus, AeroDataBox and Travelpayouts. Observed routes (which aircraft actually flew a given city pair) are crowdsourced from adsb.lol ADS-B data under the Open Database License.