B757 CREW RECEIVE CONFUSING INSTRUCTIONS FROM PHX APCH CTLR WHILE DSNDING FOR A LNDG.

2002-05 · NASA ASRS report 545951

Date: 2002-05 · Aircraft: B757-200 · Phase: approach

Anomalies: conflict-airborne-conflict|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy

Synopsis

B757 CREW RECEIVE CONFUSING INSTRUCTIONS FROM PHX APCH CTLR WHILE DSNDING FOR A LNDG.

Narrative

ON APCH TO AN 'EXPECTED' VISUAL TO RWY 25L AT PHX; THE CTLR GAVE US A DSCNT FROM 7000 FT TO 4000 FT AND A VECTOR TO 350 DEGS. HE ASKED IF WE HAD TFC ON APCH TO RWY 25L. WE REPLIED NEGATIVE. HE THEN ASKED IF WE HAD AIRBUS TFC AT OUR 1 O'CLOCK POS ON APCH TO RWY 26. WE REPLIED AFFIRMATIVE. HE PAUSED; THEN SAID TO KEEP SEPARATION FROM THAT TFC. AT THIS POINT; WE BOTH WONDERED HOW WE WERE GOING TO MAINTAIN SEPARATION WHEN WE HAD NO CLRNC TO DEVIATE FROM OUR ASSIGNED HDG. MEANWHILE; WE WERE CLOSING QUICKLY ON THE LOC RWY 25L ON A 90 DEG INTERCEPT. AS WE OBSERVED OUR ACFT GO THROUGH THE LOC; THE CAPT (PF) BEGAN A HARD L TURN TO AVOID TFC AND MAINTAINED ALT. WHILE WE WERE TURNING; THE CTLR CLRED US FOR A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 25L. AT THIS POINT THE FO (PNF) CONFIRMED WE WERE CLR OF THE TFC AND ACCEPTED THE CLRNC FOR A VISUAL TO RWY 25L. THIS WAS FOLLOWED BY A NORMAL LNDG TO RWY 25L. AFTER LNDG WE CALLED BOTH PHX TWR SUPVR AND THE TRACON SUPVR WHO BOTH ACKNOWLEDGED PROBS WITH HOW OUR ACFT WAS HANDLED.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

Loading the flight search…

Frequently asked questions

How do I search flights by aircraft type on FlightFinder?

Pick an aircraft model — Boeing 737, Airbus A320, A380, Boeing 787 Dreamliner and more — enter your origin airport, and FlightFinder shows every route that plane flies from there with live fares.

Which aircraft types can I filter by?

We support Boeing 737/747/757/767/777/787, the full Airbus A220/A319/A320/A321/A330/A340/A350/A380 family, Embraer E170/E175/E190/E195, Bombardier CRJ and Dash 8, and the ATR 42/72 turboprops.

Is FlightFinder free to use?

Search and schedules are free. Pro ($4.99/month, $39/year, or $99 one-time lifetime) unlocks the enriched flight card — on-time stats, CO₂ per passenger, amenities, live gate & weather — plus My Trips with push alerts.

Where does the route data come from?

Live schedules come from Amadeus, AeroDataBox and Travelpayouts. Observed routes (which aircraft actually flew a given city pair) are crowdsourced from adsb.lol ADS-B data under the Open Database License.