2002-09 · NASA ASRS report 559185
B18 PLT AT FMN PASSES HOLD SHORT LINE DURING TAXI TO RWY.
AFTER CONTACTING FMN GND; I WAS CLRED TO TAXI TO RWY 25. THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF TRAINING FOR A COMMUTER AIRLINE AT THIS FIELD USING BEECH BONANZAS. WHILE TAXIING TO THE RWY; A TRAINING COMPANY BONANZA EXITED THE RWY AND TAXIED ACROSS MY TXWY -- NOT CLOSE ENOUGH TO BE DANGEROUS; BUT CLOSE ENOUGH TO GET MY ATTN. AS I APCHED THE END OF THE TXWY; I NOTICED ANOTHER TRAINING COMPANY BONANZA IN THE RUN-UP AREA. WHILE I WAS WATCHING HIM; HE PULLED FORWARD A FEW FT; PROBABLY BECAUSE HIS BRAKES SLIPPED DURING ENG RUN-UP. I PULLED L AND SPED UP SLIGHTLY TO GET AROUND HIM. AT THAT POINT; I CONTACTED TWR AND SAID I WAS READY TO GO. TWR INFORMED ME THAT I HAD TAXIED PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE. I IMMEDIATELY STOPPED AND THE TWR ASKED THE LNDG TFC TO DO A 360 DEG TURN AND THEN CLRED ME TO TAKE OFF. WHILE TAKING OFF; I OBSERVED THE HOLD SHORT LINE WAS A LONG DISTANCE BACK FROM THE RWY -- RIGHT AFTER THE RUN-UP AREA. WHILE GIVING THE BONANZA IN THE RUN-UP AREA A WIDE MARGIN; I HAD TAXIED PAST THE LINE. I NEVER NOTICED IT. I EXPECTED THE LINE TO BE MUCH FURTHER AHEAD; NEARER THE RWY. THE CTLRS WERE QUITE PROFESSIONAL AND THE FAULT WAS ENTIRELY MINE. IT MAY HELP TO EITHER MOVE THE HOLD SHORT LINE OR PUT THE HIGHER VISIBILITY MARKERS ON IT THAT SOME OTHER ARPTS USE; SINCE THE LINE IS ADJACENT TO A RUN-UP AREA AND QUITE A WAYS BACK FROM THE RWY. I SHOULD HAVE STOPPED IN THE RUN-UP AREA. SOMETIMES I DO NOT DO A RUN-UP IF I HAVE JUST STOPPED FOR A SHORT TIME. I REALIZE NOW THAT THE RUN-UP GIVES THE PLT TIME TO GET READY TOO. I ALSO EXPECTED THE HOLD SHORT LINE TO BE CLOSER TO THE RWY AFTER THE CURVE. I WILL NOT MAKE ASSUMPTIONS LIKE THAT AGAIN. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR PLT SAID THIS PARTICULAR BE18 HAS A NOSEWHEEL AND LARGER ENGS. HE STATED A NON PLT WAS OCCUPYING THE R SEAT AND THAT HIS VIEW ON THE R SIDE WAS SOMEWHAT LIMITED. APCHING THE RWY; THE TWR ASKED IF HE WAS READY OR PLANNED A RUN-UP. HE DECIDED NOT TO MAKE A RUN-UP AND TOLD THE TWR HE WAS READY TO GO. LOOKING BACK; HE SAID HE SHOULD HAVE STOPPED AND DONE A RUN-UP.
Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.
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