2002-10 · NASA ASRS report 563619
A CPR FALCON 900 FLT OVERSHOOTS ITS ASSIGNED HOLDING POINT WHEN THE CREW IS MISLED AS TO WHERE THE HOLDING PATTERN IS LOCATED RELATIVE TO LOPNI INTXN; FO.
I WAS THE COPLT ON A FLT FROM ZURICH; SWITZERLAND TO FRANKFURT; GERMANY. WE WERE TOLD TO HOLD AS PUBLISHED AT THE LOPNI INTXN. THIS IS LOCATED ABOUT 65 NM SSE OF FRANKFURT. IT IS THE 360 DEG RADIAL 13 MI FIX OF LBU (LUBORG) VOR. I HAD THE LOW ALT CHART OPEN AND EASILY FOUND IT. THE HOLD IS DEPICTED N OF THE FIX SO I IMMEDIATELY WENT TO THE FMS TO CALL IT UP AND SENT IT TO THE CAPT. WE WERE ABOUT 20 MI S OF THE FIX AND ALREADY SLOWED TO 210 KTS. WE WERE AT FL220. THE FMS SHOWED THE HOLD S OF THE FIX SO I CALLED ATC TO CONFIRM THEY WANTED US TO HOLD N OF THE FIX. THEY WERE MODERATELY BUSY; SPOKE GOOD INTL ENGLISH; AND SAID YES TO MY QUESTION ABOUT HOLDING N. AFTER REVIEWING THE DEPICTED HOLD; I COULD NOT UNDERSTAND HOW TO ENTER IT BECAUSE YOU WERE EXPECTED TO GO STRAIGHT AFTER YOU CROSSED THE FIX; THEN AROUND THE HOLD BACK INTO THE FIX. FINALLY; IN ORDER TO STAY WITHIN SAFE AIRSPACE; THE CAPT AND I AGREED TO GO TO RAW DATA VOR RADIALS; TIME FOR 1 1/2 MINS AFTER XING THE FIX; THEN TURN. HOWEVER; WITHIN SECONDS OF XING THE FIX; THE CTLR ASKED IF WE HAD STARTED OUR TURN YET. WE SAID NO; WE WERE TIMING FOR A 1/2 MINS AND WOULD THEN MAKE OUR R TURN. THE CTLR CLRED US FOR AN IMMEDIATE R TURN TO REVERSE COURSE; THEN TIME FOR 1 MIN; THEN BACK TO THE FIX. I BECAME SUSPICIOUS; FOUND THE SAME FIX ON THE FRANKFURT AREA CHART; AND DISCOVERED THE HOLD DEPICTED AT LOPNI S OF THE FIX. THIS DEPICTION MADE SENSE. IN THE MEANTIME; THE CTLR CLRED US ON TO FRANKFURT WITHOUT ANYMORE DELAY. I BELIEVE THE LOW ALT CHART IS EITHER DRAWN WRONG OR THE DEPICTION WAS PURPOSELY PUT N OF THE FIX BECAUSE THE CARTOGRAPHER RAN OUT OF ROOM IN THE CROWDED AREA S OF THE FIX. THAT IS WHY THE TURNS ARE SHOWN CORRECTLY ONLY IF THE HOLDING TAKES PLACE S OF LOPNI. ANYWAY; IT IS VERY CONFUSING TO HAVE IT DRAWN ON THE MAP ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE FIX WITH TURN ARROWS ONLY GOOD IF IT IS IN ANOTHER LOCATION. THE CHART LED US ASTRAY; THE CTLR FAILED TO ANSWER OUR QUESTION CORRECTLY; AND WE WERE IN AN UNFAMILIAR LOCATION. I INTEND TO CALL CHART COMPANY ON MONDAY ABOUT THE SIT; BUT HOPE YOU CAN PASS ALONG OUR CONCERNS; ALSO. THE CTLR WAS SHARP WHEN HE IMMEDIATELY SAW US DO SOMETHING HE DIDN'T EXPECT. HE WAS GOOD ABOUT CORRECTING US.
Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.
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