C172 PLT IFR ON A PLEASURE FLT IS ASSIGNED DIRECT TO AN UNFAMILIAR FIX BY RIC APCH.

2002-10 · NASA ASRS report 564352

Date: 2002-10 · Aircraft: Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 · Phase: cruise

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-other-unknown|other-plt-experience

Synopsis

C172 PLT IFR ON A PLEASURE FLT IS ASSIGNED DIRECT TO AN UNFAMILIAR FIX BY RIC APCH.

Narrative

WE WERE CONDUCTING AN IFR FLT TO RIC. WE WERE CLRED DIRECT RIC BY THE IAD APCH CTL. WE WERE THEN HANDED OFF TO RICHMOND APCH. 5 MINS LATER; AND STILL 60 NM FROM RIC WE WERE CLRED DIRECT TO JESTY INTXN. THE ACFT HAS AN IFR CERTIFIED GPS; WE FILED '/G' FOR AN EQUIP CODE; AND THE AUTOPLT WAS ENGAGED AND SLAVED TO THE GPS FOR NAV. I WAS NOT FAMILIAR WITH 'JESTY;' AND I REQUESTED A SPELLING CLARIFICATION. THE RICHMOND APCH CTLR RESPONDED USING THE PHONETIC ALPHABET; HOWEVER; THE TONE OF THE RESPONSE INDICATED I SHOULD HAVE KNOWN HOW TO SPELL IT. REALIZING THAT I SHOULD REVIEW MY FLT PREPARATION; I TOOK THE TIME FOLLOWING THE TRIP TO LOOP UP THE INTXN. JESTY IS AN FAF ON THE ILS RWY 2 APCH. THIS FIX IS NOT PART OF THE ENRTE STRUCTURE; AND IS ONE OF MANY FIXES ON THE 12 INST APCH PROCS AT RIC. FINALLY; THIS FIX IS ONLY USED FOR THE ILS RWY 2 APCH. I AM FILING THIS RPT FOR SEVERAL REASONS. EVEN THOUGH SAFETY WAS NEVER A FACTOR DURING THIS FLT; I THINK IT COULD BE IN SITS WHERE THE APCH CTL FREQ IS VERY BUSY; AND/OR THE FLT IS A BIT CLOSER TO THE DEST AND THE AIRSPACE IS BUSIER. IT IS ALSO UNREASONABLE; I THINK; TO EXPECT PLTS TO KNOW ALL OF THE INTXN NAMES; ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT CANNOT BE LOCATED ON THE CHART RELEVANT TO THE FLT OP BEING CONDUCTED (ENRTE VERSUS APCH). DURING THE CONDUCT OF THE FLT; TRYING TO GUESS THE FIX SPELLING COULD BE A SIGNIFICANT PROB IN HIGH WORKLOAD PORTIONS OF FLT. THE DELAYS IN PROCEEDING ON THE EXPECTED COURSE COULD CAUSE ISSUES FOR PROPER ACFT SEPARATION.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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