MD80 FLT DELAYED FOR TKOF WHEN COMPANY REQUIRED CLOSEOUT NUMBERS ARE AWAITED BUT ALAS; TO NO AVAIL; AT MKE; WI.

2003-06 · NASA ASRS report 586041

Date: 2003-06 · Aircraft: MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model · Phase: ground

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|other-wt-balance-close-out-figures

Synopsis

MD80 FLT DELAYED FOR TKOF WHEN COMPANY REQUIRED CLOSEOUT NUMBERS ARE AWAITED BUT ALAS; TO NO AVAIL; AT MKE; WI.

Narrative

ON FLT FROM MKE; TAXIING OUT FOR DEP; REQUESTED CLOSEOUT NUMBERS FOR RWY 7R AT MKE; HAVING WAITED MORE THAN 10 MINS FOR THE CLOSEOUT. WE CALLED DISPATCH THROUGH OPS AT MKE AND REQUESTED THE CLOSEOUT. DISPATCH CAME BACK AND REQUESTED INFO SUCH AS; SEATING ARRANGEMENT; WEIGHT OF CARGO; AND OTHER INFO WHICH I DID NOT KNOW. AFTER GIVING THEM A TOTAL FUEL ON BOARD NUMBER; THEY STILL REQUESTED INFO THAT WE DID NOT HAVE AT THE TIME. I TOLD THE CAPT THAT WE NEEDED OUR CLOSEOUT; BUT DISPATCH KEPT ASKING US LOADING QUESTIONS; AND APPARENTLY DID NOT GET THE INFO FORM THE LOADERS AT THE MKE RAMP. WE WAITED APPROX 15 MINS AND THE SIT WAS GOING NOWHERE. DISPATCH THEN CANCELLED OUR ALTERNATE ARPT AND GAVE US A NEW FUEL NUMBER; SINCE WE HAD ALREADY BURNT BELOW OUR MIN FUEL. THE CAPT THEN DECIDED THAT HE WAS GOING TO TKOF AND THAT WE COULD USE THE NUMBERS SINCE THEY WERE REQUESTED JUST PRIOR TO TAXI; AND HE THOUGHT THOSE WERE ACCURATE EVEN WITHOUT THE CLOSEOUT. WE THEN DEPARTED WITHOUT THE CLOSEOUT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 585041: WE WERE WORKING A CHARTER FROM MKE. SCHEDULED DEP TIME WAS XA15. THE PAX ARRIVED AT XA00. THE GND HANDLERS FROM FBO TOOK OVER 35 MINS TO LOAD THE ACFT. I WAS PROVIDED WITH THE PAX MANIFEST; WHICH I PUT IN THE ENVELOPE WITH THE REST OF OUR PAPERWORK AND GAVE TO GND REPRESENTATIVE TO MAIL. I HAD THE PRELIMINARY LOAD DATA AND WITH THE GND CREW. WE HAD MKE OPS CALL DISPATCH. THEY SAID THEY WERE WAITING ON THE LOAD DATA. I RECHKED THE NUMBERS BASED OUR WTS AND BELIEVED THEY WERE VALID. AT THIS POINT WE WERE ALMOST AN HR LATE BECAUSE OF THE SLOW LOADING AND WAITING ON LOAD.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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