B737-700 FLT CREW MISINTERP LAS TEST DEP PROC CLRNC WHEN ASSIGNED FL190 FROM TWR. PRFUM RNAV SID XING RESTR OVERSHOT AS FLT CREW QUESTIONS L30 ABOUT CLRNC.

2003-11 · NASA ASRS report 598985

Date: 2003-11 · Aircraft: B737-700 · Phase: climb

Anomalies: deviation-altitude-crossing-restriction-not-met|deviation-altitude-overshoot|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance

Synopsis

B737-700 FLT CREW MISINTERP LAS TEST DEP PROC CLRNC WHEN ASSIGNED FL190 FROM TWR. PRFUM RNAV SID XING RESTR OVERSHOT AS FLT CREW QUESTIONS L30 ABOUT CLRNC.

Narrative

FO RECEIVED INITIAL CLRNC OF CLB FL190. NO MENTION OF 'COMPLY WITH RESTRS' WAS RELAYED (OR IF IT WAS; IT WAS MISSED). CTLR DID MENTION; 'THIS IS A TEST FOR THE NEXT FEW HRS;' WHEN FO QUERIED THE HIGH CLRNC ALT. IN THAT THE STAR ALTS DO NOT APPLY UNLESS CLRED BY THE CTLR; WE ASSUMED THIS WAS CLRNC TO CLB UNRESTR IRRESPECTIVE OF THE PRINTED RESTRS. JUST IN CASE; WE QUERIED AS WE CLBED THROUGH 7000 FT AT ROPPR AND DEP CONFIRMED THE RESTR. WE LEVELED OFF AT 7300 FT AT WHICH POINT THE CTLR CLRED US TO CLB UNRESTR TO FL190. IF LAS APCH IS GOING TO GENERATE SIDS AND STARS WITH ALT RESTRS; I RECOMMEND THEY BE CLRED WHEN THE PROC IS CLRED. IF THEY DON'T WANT TO USE THEM; REMOVE THEM FROM THE PROC AND ISSUE US ALTS. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR ADVISED THAT HE THOUGHT DEP RESTRS SHOULD HAVE BEEN RESTATED WITH THE ORIGINAL DEP CLRNC. THE TEST PROC WAS APPARENTLY AN ALT ASSIGNMENT CHANGE TO FL190. HE WAS NOT ADVISED THE AMENDED ALT INTENT; WHICH WAS USUALLY FL230. THE RPTR STATED THAT HE TOLD THE FO THAT THEY WOULD QUESTION CLRNC RESTRS WHEN AIRBORNE. THE ACFT WAS LIGHT AND HE WAS AT A HIGH CLB RATE WHEN ASKING DEP CTL ABOUT THE ROPPR XING RESTR. THE RPTR HAS FLOWN INTO LAS 3 MORE TIMES SINCE THE INCIDENT. THE RPTR STATED THAT LAS HAS BECOME A VERY DIFFICULT ENVIRONMENT; NOT ONLY HAS ARR AND DEP PROCS CHANGED 3 TIMES IN THE LAST 18 MONTHS; THE CTLRS HAVE BECOME TERSE AND AGGRESSIVE. BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES; PLTS HAVE BEEN CHALLENGING CLRNCS; ADDING TO FREQ CONGESTION AND COMPLEXITY. THE RPTR'S ACFT WAS EQUIPPED WITH THE LNAV EQUIP ONLY. THE RPTR ALLEGED THAT VNAV EQUIP WOULD HAVE PROBABLY ENSURED THE DEP XING RESTR WOULD HAVE BEEN COMPLIED WITH.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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