C180 ATP PLT FLIES INTO THE EXPANDED P49 AREA ON A VFR DEP TO THE NW OF 05F; TX.

2004-06 · NASA ASRS report 620277

Date: 2004-06 · Aircraft: Cessna 180 Skywagon · Phase: climb

Anomalies: airspace-violation-all-types|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-other-unknown

Synopsis

C180 ATP PLT FLIES INTO THE EXPANDED P49 AREA ON A VFR DEP TO THE NW OF 05F; TX.

Narrative

APPARENTLY FLEW INTO P49 EXPANDED TFR NOT KNOWING IT WAS EXPANDED. I WAS ADVISED BY GRAY APCH TO TURN TO 270 DEGS IMMEDIATELY AND SQUAWK ABCD WHICH I COMPLIED WITH IMMEDIATELY AND EXITED THE TFR. I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WHEN THE P49 TFR IS EXPANDED THAT IT BE NOTED ON THE AWOS. THERE ARE APPROX 30 ARPTS IN THIS EXPANDED TFR. OF COURSE NOT ALL THESE ARPTS HAVE AWOS; BUT IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL IF THAT INFO WERE INCLUDED ON AWOS. ALSO; A TEMPORARY SIGN STATING THE TFR IS IN EFFECT COULD BE POSTED AT THE DEP POINT OF EACH RWY FOR THE ARPTS WITHIN THE TFR. A PROGRAM OF THIS KIND COULD SAVE THE SECRET SERVICE; THE FAA; AND THE INDIVIDUAL PLTS A LOT OF GRIEF. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR WAS DESTINED FOR MNZ; 25 MI NW OF 05F. THE EXPANDED AREA OF P49 WAS 30 NM FROM THE CTR OF THE RANCH. HE STATED THAT HE NORMALLY CALLS FSS FOR ANY NOTAMS PERTAINING TO P49. HE WAS THE 2ND ACFT TO BE TURNED AWAY FROM THE AREA BY GRAY APCH. THE ARPT MGR HAS A TEMPORARY SOLUTION: HANGING A SIGN ON THE ARPT FENCE WHEN THE AREA IS EXPANDED. HE FEELS THAT HIS IDEA OF REPLACING THE INFO ON THE AWOS IS MORE PRACTICAL THAN THE SIGNS BY THE RWYS. 05F HAS A NEW AWOS SYSTEM THAT CAN BE USED FOR THIS PURPOSE.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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