AFTER PUSHBACK WITH ENGS RUNNING AT LFPG; B767 CAPT NOTES ACFT MOVEMENT AFTER SETTING PARKING BRAKE.

2004-11 · NASA ASRS report 637515

Date: 2004-11 · Aircraft: B767-300 and 300 ER · Phase: taxi

Anomalies: aircraft-equipment-problem-less-severe|conflict-ground-conflict|less-severe|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-published-material-policy|ground-event-encounter-person-animal-bird|ground-event-encounter-other-unknown|ground-event-encounter-vehicle

Synopsis

AFTER PUSHBACK WITH ENGS RUNNING AT LFPG; B767 CAPT NOTES ACFT MOVEMENT AFTER SETTING PARKING BRAKE.

Narrative

THIS WAS A ROUTINE PUSHBACK FROM A HARDSTAND AT LFPG. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PUSHBACK; I WAS ROUTINELY TOLD TO SET BRAKES; AND DID SO. WHILE THE GND CREW WAS DISCONNECTING; THE FO REQUESTED A FREQ CHANGE TO GO TO GND CTL. I TOOK A MOMENT TO GLANCE AT THE ARPT DIAGRAM ON THE SIDE WINDOW CLIPBOARD. AS I DID; I DISCERNED THAT THE ACFT WAS MOVING. I STOPPED THE PLANE AND CALLED TO THE GND CREW TO DETERMINE IF ANYTHING UNTOWARD HAD OCCURRED. THE GND CREW TOLD ME THAT NO DAMAGE HAD OCCURRED; AND THAT ALL PERSONNEL WERE OK; BUT THAT THE PLANE HAD MOVED FORWARD WITH THE TOW BAR STILL ATTACHED. SHE WAS DESERVEDLY ANGRY; AND I WAS QUITE HUMILIATED. IT WAS FORTUNATE THAT THE PLANE MOVED ONLY INCHES; AND THAT BOTH THE PUSHBACK TUG; AND THE PERSON DISCONNECTING THE TOW BAR WERE CLR. 1 OF 3 QUITE UNLIKELY THINGS HAD OCCURRED: 1) EITHER I FAILED TO PROPERLY SET THE BRAKE; 2) IT DISCONNECTED ON ITS OWN; OR 3) FOR NO REASON AT ALL I RELEASED IT. THOUGH ALL QUITE IMPROBABLE; ONE OF THESE MUST HAVE OCCURRED. THE TRUTH IS THAT I AM CERTAIN I SET THE PARKING BRAKE; AND HAD NO REASON AT ALL TO HAVE RELEASED IT PREMATURELY. THERE WAS NO RUSH; YET THIS DID HAPPEN. I SUBMIT THIS BECAUSE I WOULD HAVE CONSIDERED THIS TO HAVE BEEN A COMPLETELY BENIGN PHASE OF FLT -- PARKED WITH ENGS RUNNING. YET; CLRLY DAMAGE OR INJURY COULD HAVE OCCURRED. AFTER 30 YRS OF THIS; I LEARNED YET AGAIN THAT THERE ARE NO BENIGN PHASES OF FLT; AND THAT YOUR HEAD HAD BETTER BE IN THE GAME AT ALL TIMES; OR YOU'RE NOT REALLY IN THE GAME AT ALL.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

Loading the flight search…

Frequently asked questions

How do I search flights by aircraft type on FlightFinder?

Pick an aircraft model — Boeing 737, Airbus A320, A380, Boeing 787 Dreamliner and more — enter your origin airport, and FlightFinder shows every route that plane flies from there with live fares.

Which aircraft types can I filter by?

We support Boeing 737/747/757/767/777/787, the full Airbus A220/A319/A320/A321/A330/A340/A350/A380 family, Embraer E170/E175/E190/E195, Bombardier CRJ and Dash 8, and the ATR 42/72 turboprops.

Is FlightFinder free to use?

Search and schedules are free. Pro ($4.99/month, $39/year, or $99 one-time lifetime) unlocks the enriched flight card — on-time stats, CO₂ per passenger, amenities, live gate & weather — plus My Trips with push alerts.

Where does the route data come from?

Live schedules come from Amadeus, AeroDataBox and Travelpayouts. Observed routes (which aircraft actually flew a given city pair) are crowdsourced from adsb.lol ADS-B data under the Open Database License.