SR22 PLT EXPRESSED CONCERN REGARDING SGF TRACON COMMUNICATION COVERAGE FOR IFR OPS AT LBO ARPT.

2005-12 · NASA ASRS report 680119

Date: 2005-12 · Aircraft: SR22 · Phase: approach

Anomalies: other-poor-atc-communication-coverage

Synopsis

SR22 PLT EXPRESSED CONCERN REGARDING SGF TRACON COMMUNICATION COVERAGE FOR IFR OPS AT LBO ARPT.

Narrative

APPROACHES INTO LBO WERE BEING HANDLED BY KC CTR UNTIL THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS. COMMUNICATIONS WERE NOT A PROBLEM WITH CTR. SINCE SGF APCH HAS TAKEN OVER FOR THE LBO AREA; COMMUNICATIONS HAVE BEEN DIFFICULT WHILE SHOOTING APCHES INTO LEBANON. THIS IS ESPECIALLY TRUE WHEN COMING TO THE LBO AREA FROM THE E. TYPICALLY (AS WELL AS THE ABOVE DATE); WHEN APCHING FROM THE E; I HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO MAKE RADIO CONTACT WITH SGF UNTIL I AM AT OR W OF THE FIELD AT LBO. THIS IS TRUE EVEN IF COMING IN AT 4000 TO 6000 FT MSL. THIS MAKES IT MUCH MORE CUMBERSOME TO EXECUTE AN APCH INTO THE ARPT. WHEN A FULL APCH IS NECESSARY; THIS RESULTS IN STARTING THE APCH HIGH AND HAVING TO CROSS THE FIELD PRIOR TO GETTING VECTORS/CLRNC FOR THE APCH. WITHOUT GOING INTO GREAT DETAIL; I AM SURE YOU ARE AWARE OF THE PROBS THAT POOR COMMUNICATION CAN CAUSE WHILE FLYING IN IMC. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE THE POWERS THAT BE AWARE THAT WE NOW HAVE A PROBLEM AT LBO. IT IS GREAT TO DEAL WITH SGF WHEN I AM ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM -- I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR ARPT. I JUST HAVE A PROBLEM WITH NOT BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM. HOWEVER; CTR HAS BEEN GREAT TO DEAL WITH IN THE PAST AS WELL; AND TYPICALLY I AM ABLE TO TALK TO THEM WELL BELOW 1000 FT AGL. ACTUALLY; I FREQUENTLY SWITCH BACK TO CTR (AFTER TRYING TO CONTACT SGF); WHILE STILL AIRBORNE TO CANCEL IFR PRIOR TO LNDG. IT APPEARS THAT SGF NEEDS BETTER COMMUNICATION ABILITY IN OUR AREA TO SERVE US AS WELL AS CTR HAS BEEN ABLE TO IN THE PAST. ANOTHER CONCERN WOULD BE RADAR COVERAGE. I HOPE THAT THERE HAS NOT BEEN A SIMILAR CASE OF DECREASED COVERAGE WITH RADAR AS WELL AS COMMUNICATION; FOR THAT WOULD APPEAR TO BE A CONSIDERABLE SAFETY CONCERN. THE EXPERIENCED COM DIFFICULTIES ARE MORE OF AN INCONVENIENCE THAN ANYTHING.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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