2007-04 · NASA ASRS report 736394
PLT OF MDT IS CONFUSED BY THE TRUCK SID GRAPHIC DEPICTION OUT OF TRK. TRACK DEV RESULTS.
WE HAD TO GET OUR CLRNC FROM RENO FSS AS WE WERE UNABLE TO ESTABLISH 2-WAY COM WITH ZOA ON THE GND AT TRK. THE CLRNC WE WERE GIVEN (BY TELEPHONE) WAS: THE TRK2 DEP; SQW; FRA; J7; FIM; SADEE6 TO LAX. WHEN I REVIEWED THE SID; I SAW IT HAD A SOLID; BOLD LINE FROM TRUCK TO FMG; AND NO LINE AT ALL FROM TRUCK TO SQW. I INTERPED THIS AS MEANING THE SID ENDED AT FMG; NOT TRUCK. (I REALIZED LATER THAT THE SOLID; BOLD LINE DEPICTS PART OF A VICTOR AIRWAY; AND IS NOT ACTUALLY PART OF THE SID.) EVEN INTERPING THE SID THAT WAY; I WAS NOT SURE THEY REALLY WANTED ME TO GO THAT FAR NE TO FMG BEFORE TURNING S TO SQW. I WANTED TO CLARIFY THIS; BUT RATHER THAN CALL BACK TO FSS BY PHONE AND HAVE TO RELAY MY QUESTION TO CTR; I ELECTED TO WAIT UNTIL WE WERE AIRBORNE AND ASK CTR DIRECTLY. AFTER ESTABLISHING COMS WITH ZOA; I ASKED THE CTLR IF THEY WANTED ME TO GO ALL THE WAY TO FMG BEFORE TURNING TO SQW. THE CTLR DID NOT RESPOND TO MY QUESTION. A MIN LATER; WHEN WE WERE JUST GETTING TO TRUCK WAYPOINT; I CALLED AGAIN; AND AGAIN GOT NO RESPONSE. LESS THAN A MIN LATER; WHEN WE WERE ABOUT 5 NM NE OF TRUCK; I CALLED CTR AND ASKED FOR A RADIO CHK. THE CTLR RESPONDED BY ASKING ME TO CONFIRM WE WERE PROCEEDING DIRECT TO SQW. I STATED I WAS COMPLETING THE DEP PROC TO FMG; BUT WE WOULD TURN NOW IF SHE WANTED US DIRECT TO SQW. THE CTLR STATED THAT THE CLRNC WAS TO SQW. IN THE NEXT SECTOR; WE WERE TOLD WE HAD A POSSIBLE PLTDEV AND GIVEN A PHONE NUMBER TO CALL. THERE WERE NO TFC CONFLICTS. IN FACT; THERE WERE NO TCAS TARGETS WITHIN 20 NM OF US. I THINK THE DEPICTION OF PART OF A VICTOR AIRWAY SHOULD BE DELETED FROM THE TRK2 SID AS IT IS NOT AN INTEGRAL PART OF THE PROC. ALSO; TRUCKEE GETS A LOT OF JET TFC; AND I THINK AN RCO IS DEFINITELY WARRANTED. IT IS TOO HARD TO GET CLARIFICATION RELAYING THROUGH FSS BY TELEPHONE.
Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.
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