C152 STUDENT PILOT ON FIRST SOLO; RECEIVES POOR TREATMENT FROM TOWER CONTROLLER AND CONFUSING CLEARANCES.

2008-04 · NASA ASRS report 781491

Date: 2008-04 · Aircraft: Cessna 152

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance

Synopsis

C152 STUDENT PILOT ON FIRST SOLO; RECEIVES POOR TREATMENT FROM TOWER CONTROLLER AND CONFUSING CLEARANCES.

Narrative

STUDENT PLT ON SUPERVISED SOLO; CALLED ON GND FREQ; AND WHEN REQUESTING TAXI CLRNC; SAID THAT HE WAS A SOLO STUDENT PLT. I CALLED TWR AFTERWARD; BUT THEY SAID THAT THEY DID NOT HEAR THAT EVEN THOUGH I HEARD IT OVER MY HANDHELD RADIO. TWR CTLR WAS QUITE ABRASIVE WITH STUDENT; AND ISSUED SEVERAL CLRNCS THAT WERE NOT VERY CLR. THE FIRST WAS TO YELL AT THE STUDENT FOR DOING AN EARLY XWIND. WE HAVE BEEN DOING THE SAME XWIND FOR 70+ LNDGS OVER THE LAST SEVERAL DAYS. THEY ALSO TOLD STUDENT TO DO A L 270 DEG TURN FROM AN EXTENDED R DOWNWIND TO RWY 31; AND ROLL OUT ON L BASE. THE STUDENT CONTINUED ON EXTENDED DOWNWIND WHERE THE CTLR YELLED AT HIM AGAIN TO TURN R BASE. THE STUDENT HAD BEEN DOING TOUCH-AND-GOES; BUT THE TWR CLRED HIM TO LAND. THE STUDENT MADE TOUCH-AND-GOES INSTEAD; AND I THINK THAT HE WAS JUST CONFUSED WITH ALL OF THE NEW CLRNCS THAT VERY FEW; PROBABLY LESS THAN 1% OF PVT PLTS IN THIS COUNTRY WOULD UNDERSTAND. I HAVE ADVISED THE STUDENT ON GETTING THE PROPER CLRNC. I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH POOR TREATMENT OF THE STUDENT PLT! FURTHER; HURLING NEW TRICKS AT THE STUDENT SEEMS TO BE MOST UNPRODUCTIVE. THE CTLR SEEMS TO BE EXTREMELY MOODY AT TIMES; AND IS MOST CONTRARY TO SAFETY.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

Loading the flight search…

Frequently asked questions

How do I search flights by aircraft type on FlightFinder?

Pick an aircraft model — Boeing 737, Airbus A320, A380, Boeing 787 Dreamliner and more — enter your origin airport, and FlightFinder shows every route that plane flies from there with live fares.

Which aircraft types can I filter by?

We support Boeing 737/747/757/767/777/787, the full Airbus A220/A319/A320/A321/A330/A340/A350/A380 family, Embraer E170/E175/E190/E195, Bombardier CRJ and Dash 8, and the ATR 42/72 turboprops.

Is FlightFinder free to use?

Search and schedules are free. Pro ($4.99/month, $39/year, or $99 one-time lifetime) unlocks the enriched flight card — on-time stats, CO₂ per passenger, amenities, live gate & weather — plus My Trips with push alerts.

Where does the route data come from?

Live schedules come from Amadeus, AeroDataBox and Travelpayouts. Observed routes (which aircraft actually flew a given city pair) are crowdsourced from adsb.lol ADS-B data under the Open Database License.