CLRNC READ BACK AS CLIMB AND MAINTAIN 17000'. DEP CTLR ADVISED CLRNC WAS TO MAINTAIN 10000'. NO CONFLICT.

1988-03 · NASA ASRS report 83393

Date: 1988-03 · Aircraft: Medium Large Transport; Low Wing; 2 Turbojet Eng · Phase: climb

Anomalies: deviation-altitude-overshoot|deviation-discrepancy-procedural-clearance|other-unspecified

Synopsis

CLRNC READ BACK AS CLIMB AND MAINTAIN 17000'. DEP CTLR ADVISED CLRNC WAS TO MAINTAIN 10000'. NO CONFLICT.

Narrative

NOTE: COPLT ON FIRST LINE SEQUENCE AFTER COMPLETING TRNING AND CHKFLTS WITH TRNING CAPT; NO PREVIOUS JET EXPERIENCE; PREVIOUS POS WITH THIS ACR WAS S/O (3 YRS); BACKGROUND COMMUTER CARRIER; NON MIL. THE INCIDENT OCCURRED ON THE THIRD LEG OF 6 LEGS SCHEDULED TO FLY THAT DAY; LAYOVER WAS SCHEDULED FOR 17+44 HRS AFTER AN 11+46 HR SCHEDULED ON DUTY DAY. MOB DEP CLRED ACR TO CONTINUE CLB TO 17000' AND GAVE A HDG TO INTERCEPT J37 TO MGM. COPLT READ BACK CLRNC; CLEARLY STATING CLB TO 17000' AND SET 17000' IN THE ASSIGNED ALT READOUT OF THE ALT ALERT INDICATOR PANEL. CAPT/RPTR FLYING ACFT COMMENCED CLB TO 17000'; PASSING 13500' ATC REQUESTED WHAT ALT WE WERE CLBING TO; CLRNC WAS TO 10000'; REQUESTED WE STOP CLB AT 14000'. COPLT RESPONDED THAT WE WERE CLRED TO 17000'; THAT WAS READ BACK TO ATC. DEP REQUESTED WE CHANGE TO HOU CENTER. COPLT CHKED IN WITH HOU CENTER AT 14000'; HOU REQUESTED TO KNOW WHAT ALT WE WERE CLRED TO. COPLT RESPONDED OUR UNDERSTANDING WAS 17000'. AN OBVIOUS MIX UP OCCURRED. CAPT/RPTR ALSO STATED TO HOU CENTER I UNDERSTOOD CLRED TO CLB TO 17000'. THE PROB WAS IN COMS. THE CREW FLYING THE ACFT UNDERSTOOD A SPECIFIC ALT TO CLB TO AND READ BACK THAT CLRNC. ATC DID NOT CHALLENGE THE READBACK; SO WE ASSUMED THAT WE WERE CLRED AS WAS READ BACK AND COMMENCED CLB TO THAT ALT. THIS IS AN ONGOING PROB IN AVIATION. IT REQUIRES CONSTANT VIGILANCE ON THE PART OF ATC AND PLTS THAT WHAT IS DESIRED IS CORRECTLY STATED; WHAT IS HEARD IS CORRECTLY RESPONDED TO; AND THAT THE RESPONSE IS IN FACT WHAT WAS INITIALLY STATED AS THE CLRNC. WHILE IT MAY NOT HAVE OCCURRED AT THIS FAC ON THIS DAY WITH REGARD TO THIS OCCURRENCE; I HAVE NOTED AN INCREASING AMOUNT OF ATC USAGE OF 2 FREQS BEING USED BY 1 CTLR; IE; I CANNOT HEAR THE RESPONSES FROM WHOMEVER ATC IS CTLING AND I ASSUME VICE VERSA. MANY CALLS ARE NOT RESPONDED TO IN A TIMELY MANNER BECAUSE OF THIS AND ADDS TO THE POSSIBILITY OF A COMS BREAKDOWN. ALSO; WHAT HAS BEEN INCREASINGLY BEING UTILIZED BY ATC IS THE SAME CTLR HANDLING DEPS AND ARRS; AGAIN MAKING TIMELY CLRNC AND RESPONSE DIFFICULT. I ALSO SUGGEST THAT THIS TYPE OF CTL IS DIFFICULT TO SEPARATE IN THE MIND OF THE CTLR AND MATERIALLY ADDS AND DETRACTS FROM ATC WORKLOAD. A FURTHER CONSIDERATION ON THIS OCCURRENCE WOULD BE THE HEAVIER WORKLOAD IMPOSED ON A 2 MEMBER FLT CREW PARTICULARLY HEAVIER DUE TO THE COPLT RECENT UPGRADE FROM ENGINEER AFTER 3 YRS OF PNF POSITIONS; PLUS THIS SERIES OF FLTS BEING A FIRST TIME EXPERIENCE FOR THE COPLT.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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