WX ENCOUNTER; CROSSWIND LNDG.

1988-07 · NASA ASRS report 90337

Date: 1988-07 · Aircraft: Medium Large Transport; Low Wing; 2 Turbojet Eng

Anomalies: inflight-event-encounter-weather-turbulence

Synopsis

WX ENCOUNTER; CROSSWIND LNDG.

Narrative

WHILE BEING VECTORED TO SRQ; WE BROKE OUT UNDER AN OVCST AT 1600'. WE RPTED THE ARPT IN SIGHT AND WAS GRANTED A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 14. THE F/O WAS MANUALLY FLYING THE ACFT. BECAUSE OF THE SHORT LENGTH OF THE RWY (7003'); THE F/O ASKED FOR PERMISSION TO USE 40 DEG LNDG FLAPS VS THE NORMAL COMPANY POLICY OF 28 DEGS. I REPLIED THAT IF THE WINDS CONTINUED TO BLOW AS LAST RPTED ON THE ATIS THAT I WOULD HAVE A PROB ALLOWING HIM TO LAND THE ACFT. OUR COMPANY RULES DO NOT ALLOW F/O'S TO LAND WHEN XWINDS EXCEED 15 KTS. BUT; FOR THE PRESENT TIME (UNTIL A NEW WIND RPT IS RECEIVED); IT WOULD BE OK FOR HIM TO USE 40 DEGS OF FLAPS FOR LNDG. I ALSO REMINDED THE F/O OF THE ACFT'S CHARACTERISTICS OF VIRTUALLY FALLING OUT FROM UNDER YOU WHEN PWR IS REDUCED TO IDLE; DURING FLARE; USING 40 DEGS OF FLAPS IN A XWIND. WE ALIGNED WITH RWY 14 APPROX 3 MI OUT ON FINAL APCH. AT 900' I ASKED FOR A WIND RPT. SRQ TWR RESPONDED WITH 090 AT 16 KTS (WELL WITHIN OUR COMPANY POLICY TO ALLOW A F/O TO LAND). AT 500' OUR SPEED WAS 130 KTS/SINK 700'. OUR VREF WAS 118 KTS. AT APPROX 300' I REMINDED THE F/O; 'REMEMBER; LEFT XWIND; LEFT AILERON; RIGHT RUDDER.' I MADE THE REMARK DUE TO PAST OBSERVATIONS OF COMPANY F/O'S WHO WERE TAUGHT TO USE RUDDER ONLY IN REMOVING CRAB PRIOR TO T/D. BECAUSE SOME UNSTABLE AIR EXISTED; WE CROSSED THE THRESHOLD AT 125 KTS OR VREF PLUS 7 KTS. THE APCH WAS GOOD DOWN TO OUR FLARE. DURING THE FLARE; THE F/O REMOVED ALL THE AILERON AND RUDDER INPUTS PREVIOUSLY ADDED FOR THE XWIND. THE ACFT STARTED TO DRIFT TO THE RIGHT. THE F/O ABRUPTLY ADDED LEFT AILERON BUT THE LEFT WHEEL DID NOT TOUCH. HE THEN SIMULTANEOUSLY LOWERED THE NOSE RESULTING IN T/D OF BOTH THE LEFT AND NOSE WHEELS. THIS AUTOMATICALLY DEPLOYED THE SPOILERS CAUSING THE RIGHT WHEEL TO DROP. WHILE THE T/D WAS NOT HARD; THE ROCKING MOTION WHICH DEVELOPED WAS ALARMING. TO AN OBSERVER; THE MANEUVER WOULD APPEAR CARELESS AND RECKLESS. TO THE F/O IT WAS A LEARNING EXPERIENCE HE WILL NEVER FORGET. TO ME; THE CAPT; IT ILLUSTRATED THE NEED FOR MORE TRNING IN XWIND TECHNIQUE FOR THE F/O'S. OUR COMPANY TRAINS ONLY TO PROFICIENCY; NOT COMFORTABILITY. NEW F/O'S RECEIVE NO ACTUAL ACFT TRNING IN SOME MODELS OF OUR MLG INCLUDING THE XX WHICH HAVE NO HIGH LIFT DEVICES WITH TOTALLY DIFFERENT LNDG CHARACTERISTICS. TRNING NEEDS TO BE ACCOMPLISHED BY TRNING PLTS AND NOT LINE PLTS WITH PAX ON BOARD THE ACFT. INTERNAL SUGGESTIONS WILL RESULT IN TRYING TO FIND FAULT WITH THE PIC VS LOOKING FOR THE SOURCE OF THE PROB AND CORRECTING THE DEFICIENCIES BEFORE A LARGER PROB EXISTS. I THEREFORE; RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT THIS RPT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: RPTR FEELS MERGER IS PART OF PROB. RPTR HAS SPOKEN WITH PERSON IN CHARGE OF TRNING TO TRY FOR SOME UPGRADING. MAJOR COMPANY FEELS TRNING IS ADEQUATE FOR F/O'S; BUT ON LINE IT APPEARS NOT TO BE.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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