ACR MDT FLT CREW COMPLAINT ABOUT REDUCED CREW REST PERIOD.

1988-10 · NASA ASRS report 96245

Date: 1988-10 · Aircraft: Medium Transport; High Wing; 2 Turboprop Eng

Anomalies: deviation-discrepancy-procedural-far|other-unspecified

Synopsis

ACR MDT FLT CREW COMPLAINT ABOUT REDUCED CREW REST PERIOD.

Narrative

ON 10/SUN/88 I WAS THE F/O OF A CREW WORKING THE THIRD DAY OF VERY EVENTFUL 3 DAY TRIP. THE VIOLATION IN QUESTION IS THAT OF FAR 121.471 SEC C-1; WHICH DEALS WITH REQUIRED REST. ON THE FIRST NIGHT OF A 3 DAY TRIP WE WERE GIVEN A REDUCED REST PERIOD OF LESS THAN 9 HRS (8 HRS; 8 MINS). ON THE SECOND NIGHT WE WERE ALSO GIVEN A REDUCED REST PERIOD OF 8 HRS AND 57 MINS. THIS WAS THE VIOLATION; AFTER THE FIRST REDUCED REST PERIOD WE WERE REQUIRED TO HAVE 10 HRS OF REST. THE REQUIRED REST PERIOD IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE AIRLINES AND OUR TYPE OF FLYING. I HAVE DEALT WITH THIS FAR MANY TIMES BEFORE. IT SLIPPED PAST US FOR 2 REASONS. THE FIRST WAS FATIGUE AND THE SECOND WAS AN EMER THAT HAPPENED ON THE FIRST DAY OF THE TRIP. WE HAD SMOKE IN THE CABIN AND HAD TO SHUT DOWN THE LEFT ENG AND DIVERT TO MILWAUKEE; WI. THE COMPANY THEN LEFT US ON DUTY FOR 14 HRS; 58 MINS. THE SECOND DAY HAD US ON DUTY FOR 12 HRS; 52 MINS WITH 6 HRS; 9 MINS OF HARD TIME. THE VIOLATION WAS NOT DISCOVERED UNTIL 10/MON/88; WHEN EACH STEP OF THE TRIP AND EMER. THROUGH FATIGUE THE EMER; ALTHOUGH NOT LIFE THREATENING; IN THE END TOOK PRECEDENCE IN OUR MINDS. THIS SHOWS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN RELIEVED MUCH SOONER.

Source: NASA Aviation Safety Reporting System (public domain). Reports are voluntary submissions and are not verified by NASA.

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