Casualties unknown

Aircraft Overweight and High Density Altitude Preceding Water Impact at Big Bear Airport (N56513)

Big Bear, CA, US

On September 11, 1983, a Piper PA-28-140 (registration N56513) operated by Bartlett Aviation was involved in an aviation accident near Big Bear, CA. This summary draws on records from the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) historical archive.

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A pilot reported that after a runup with a leaned mixture, the aircraft departed from Big Bear Airport, failed to climb above 200 feet, descended, and struck the lake at 60 knots. Investigation found the aircraft was at least 294 lbs over gross weight and density altitude was computed at 8,352 feet.

Departure and Initial Climb

According to the pilot, after a runup during which the mixture was 'leaned', the aircraft departed from Runway 25 at Big Bear Airport. The pilot stated that the nose of the aircraft was lowered to 'gain 80 kts IAS,' and that the aircraft 'climbed to approximately 150 to 200 ft above the lake and would climb no higher.'

Descent and Impact

The aircraft then 'began a gradual descent' and struck the water at '60 kts in what seemed like a level attitude.'

Investigation Findings

Investigation revealed that the aircraft was at least 294 lbs over gross weight. The density altitude was computed to be 8,352 ft when using 60 degrees F as a value. The recorded temperature 15 nautical miles away was 86 degrees F. No pre-impact discrepancies were found during the examination of the aircraft wreckage or the subsequent engine test.

Frequently asked questions

What happened in the 11 Sept 1983 Piper PA-28-140 accident near Big Bear, CA?

A pilot reported that after a runup with a leaned mixture, the aircraft departed from Big Bear Airport, failed to climb above 200 feet, descended, and struck the lake at 60 knots. Investigation found the aircraft was at least 294 lbs over gross weight and density altitude was computed at 8,352 feet.

What aircraft was involved and where did it happen?

The accident on 11 Sept 1983 involved a Piper PA-28-140, registration N56513, operated by Bartlett Aviation, at Big Bear, CA.

Investigation report by the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) historical archive. Original record: https://carol.ntsb.gov/event/20001214X44561. This page is a structured re-presentation; facts and quotes are in the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), United States.