Casualties unknown

Engine Power Loss During Climb Leads to Lake Impact (N4512Q)

Culver, IN, US

On August 10, 2005, a Piper PA-28-161 (registration N4512Q) was involved in an aviation accident near Culver, IN. Investigators recorded the probable cause as: The loss of engine power while maneuvering due to partial failure of the left magneto, and the flight instructor's failure to maintain sufficient airspeed to avoid a stall. This summary draws on records from the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) historical archive; 4 related events involving the same aircraft type or operator are linked below.

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A flight instructor and student pilot experienced a loss of engine power shortly after takeoff, leading to a lake impact. Investigation revealed magneto timing issues and maintenance discrepancies.

Accident Description

The airplane was operated as part of a school's aviation program with a flight instructor and student pilot on board. Shortly after takeoff, the engine lost power and the aircraft impacted a lake. Witnesses reported hearing the engine sputtering, a momentary restart, and then a complete loss of engine power while the airplane was maneuvering at an altitude of approximately 150 to 200 feet above ground level.

Structural and Systems Examination

Both wings exhibited leading edge crushing and vertical separation from the fuselage, consistent with a low-speed, shallow pitch impact attitude. The propeller did not display signs of bending or twisting. The flaps were found in the retracted position. Cockpit switches were in positions contrary to those called for in the emergency landing procedures checklist for the airplane.

Engine and Ignition System Findings

Examination of the engine ignition system revealed that the left magneto timing was approximately 30 to 35 degrees before top dead center, and the impulse coupling was unwound. The right magneto timing was not specified.

Maintenance Records

The airplane had completed an annual inspection on the day of the accident. Engine logbook records showed an entry dated August 9, 2004, stating, "changed left magneto with new magneto model number 4371." There was no annotation of the serial number for the left magneto, and no further entries documented an overhaul of either magneto. No serviceable tag was associated with the replacement left magneto. At the time of the annual inspection, the left magneto had accumulated 406 hours since installation, and the right magneto had accumulated 1,429 hours since its last overhaul, based on logbook entries. According to the magneto manufacturer's service bulletin, these magnetos require overhaul every 500 hours.

Additional Observations

Inspection of the remaining airplanes used in the school's aviation program revealed numerous maintenance-related discrepancies, including the use of unairworthy parts. Upon recovery of the accident airplane, the entry door was found in the latched closed position.

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Frequently asked questions

What happened in the 10 Aug 2005 Piper PA-28-161 accident near Culver, IN?

A flight instructor and student pilot experienced a loss of engine power shortly after takeoff, leading to a lake impact. Investigation revealed magneto timing issues and maintenance discrepancies.

What aircraft was involved and where did it happen?

The accident on 10 Aug 2005 involved a Piper PA-28-161, registration N4512Q, at Culver, IN.

What was the probable cause of the accident?

The loss of engine power while maneuvering due to partial failure of the left magneto, and the flight instructor's failure to maintain sufficient airspeed to avoid a stall. An additional cause was improper maintenance by company maintenance personnel, resulting in the failure of the left magneto. Factors associated…

Investigation report by the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) historical archive. Original record: https://carol.ntsb.gov/event/20050815X01247. This page is a structured re-presentation; facts and quotes are in the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), United States.